Matrix
Enthusiast
what about a paxton supercharger for a 2008 Viper?
Supercharged 08 Viper
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mjorgensen Woodhouse
Enthusiast
I don't see this being a viable option with the stock internals and compression. If the PCM is cracked by someone the options will open up but right now there is nothing.
Hey Mark maybe you can answer this one.A certain tuner out there is marketing a package where as he ports, flows and puts biggers valves in the 08s heads.Along with headers ,exhaust claims 775 crank horsepower.Will doing this type of headwork throw a code
mjorgensen Woodhouse
Enthusiast
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
unless he has a magic code for the 08' PCM I highly doubt it is viable but who knows as the "tuner" could have some great inside help although that would be hard to believe either. Guess someone will need to be the Guinea pig for this and let us all know the wonders of the tuner in question.
unless he has a magic code for the 08' PCM I highly doubt it is viable but who knows as the "tuner" could have some great inside help although that would be hard to believe either. Guess someone will need to be the Guinea pig for this and let us all know the wonders of the tuner in question.
C-Note
Enthusiast
I have heard that if your wanted to do it you would have to get rid of the new varable valve cam for a normal cam, and gut the computer for an older style.
Not worth it if you ask me....
Not worth it if you ask me....
mjorgensen Woodhouse
Enthusiast
All in all, considering this certain tuners past history i felt it prudent to ask whether anyone had actually done this already on an 08
We have to also all remember one thing.Dodge could have simply added a blower to the Gen 3s insted of going to the Gen4s cam in cam.One of the main reasons didnot due this was because there is no way that blower engine could pass their durability test (an engine is basically run at near redline for days straight on the dyno)
Doubtful. There is more warranty work involved if they supercharged it and have problems. Most manufacturers like to stay N/A.
And as far as durability, there are many Paxton cars with 20k + miles and running strong. Mine has about 7k miles since S/C and it lives at redline.
And as far as your other statement, most people buying these types of cars and supercharging them, dont care about a warranty. I wouldnt take mine to dealer, Id rather spend money fixing any problems and know its done right then taking to the dealer. Unless it was one of our sponsored dealers. Unfortunantley they dont have any good dealers near me, so I am my own warranty. lol
Mike i was told this word for word by an SRT engineer thru my conections with McMillian Argus publications.Any and all engines that come out of Dodge must pass the durability test of days straight at redline.(Absolutely no way that adding a Paton could do this.)Obviously Dodge thought this way because they went with the cam in cam Then there is always the issue of the Paxton needind rebuild itself.You may not care if you have a warranty but most people in buying a 90 grand car do.
Remember most manu like to stay NA because of the durability issues associated with the blower.It all comes down to money.Alot of times it is cheaper for them (new ZR-1)redesign a proven platform and throw a blower on it than to design a total new NA motor.
mjorgensen Woodhouse
Enthusiast
Is the durability test at WOT run with a load or just at WOT redline?
MKB96Viper
Viper Owner
Don't forget the 08 stock ECU has torque values built in where if you cross over/above those values the stock ECU begins to close down the T/B's and reduce power. Until someone is able to get inside the stock ECU and program these new 08's power adders are not going to work. Trust me, we've been there already.
Cop Magnet
Enthusiast
So how does the exhaust/header combo gain the reported big power it does???
mjorgensen Woodhouse
Enthusiast
Regardless of the debate the headers have been optimized to work within the factory PCM parameters and make the most from them. They were actually "detuned" to work the best.
The "claims" are real though don't doubt that.
The "claims" are real though don't doubt that.
Rick530
Viper Owner
how about all the burnt wires and stuff tho. Repositioning the sensors.. Seems like a hastle just for an exhaust.
MKB96Viper
Viper Owner
Cop Magnet,
The power gains are real for the Belanger headers and exhaust and the stock ECU doesn't seem to recognize them. However, the stock ECU kicks in with the nitrous. I have no idea what the torque value is "IF" thats even whats slowing the car down. We are still speculating and working on it.
The power gains are real for the Belanger headers and exhaust and the stock ECU doesn't seem to recognize them. However, the stock ECU kicks in with the nitrous. I have no idea what the torque value is "IF" thats even whats slowing the car down. We are still speculating and working on it.
mjorgensen Woodhouse
Enthusiast
No such issues on any of our installations. May have been a slight issue with the gen3 cars but the 08's are flawless if installed right.
Rick530
Viper Owner
how about passing kommiefornia emmisions with em?
mjorgensen Woodhouse
Enthusiast
Rick530
Viper Owner
my smog guy is half blind. lol
mjorgensen Woodhouse
Enthusiast
Probably from the SMOG lol
Rick530
Viper Owner
No doubt
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From what he explained the engine is basically held at near 6000 rpm for days straight.(didnt say anything about load ).We got into the conversation engineer said Dodge explored all options in going to GEN 4 (including supercharging)nothing was close overall reliability factor that the currentGen 4 has achieved and that Dodge mandates it have(specifically mentioned Paxton kit).Current Gen 4 engine specifically engineered to live on road coarses all types of weather ect live at least 100K MILES BETWEEN REBUILDS ect(since so many Viper owners roadrace.)Iam not saying the current Paxton kit is not reliable just that its reliability factors are no where near the specifications in which a major auto manufacter would have to havewarranty considerations ect.
