TechArt 911 stage II turbo vs Bone stock SRT10

[SnakeBitten]

New MT mag got an article of the Techart Porsche 911 with 540hp...Hard numbers: 0-60-3.7 and 1/4 in 11.9 @ 120.....Heres the part that gets me....The headline says "0-100-0 in 12.81secs--enough said"...

Now taking nothing away from this incredible machine that is Porsche, didnt the STOCK SRT10 blow away this 911 tuner car with a 12.1 0-100-0??? It even cleaned this pumped up 911 clock in the 1/4 mile and out braked in on stock everything....No raving though for the SRT "convertable" .....Im really getting tired of the forked tongue approach to automotive journalism....

 

[treynor]

You'd have to see what MT got for the SRT. But yes, remember that their job is to sell your eyeballs to advertisers, so they're not about to bash a Porsche by comparing it to a car half its price...

 

[SnakeBitten]

You'd have to see what MT got for the SRT. But yes, remember that their job is to sell your eyeballs to advertisers, so they're not about to bash a Porsche by comparing it to a car half its price...

I have the mag of its SRT10 test against the MT900 thats why I posted this...Its not about bashing the Porsche...These were two separate tests...Im just laughing at how the SRT10 did a 12.1 in the 0-100-0 in MT's own test a few months ago and was met with little more than a yawn..

BTW I really doubt that the Porsche is that "slow" with 540hp...Those are stock GTS numbers in the 1/4 mile not to mention Porsches own GT2. Both GT2 and GTS are under 500hp. So maybe this 911 wasnt tuned perfectly or just a bad day...

 

[Larry Macedo]

The Porsche wasn't built for drag racing and are very difficult to launch properly from a standing start. That being said I would run either of the (2) 996TT's I just finished against most tuner cars from a rolling start

 

[SnakeBitten]

The Porsche wasn't built for drag racing and are very difficult to launch properly from a standing start. That being said I would run either of the (2) 996TT's I just finished against most tuner cars from a rolling start

Really???AWD really give it and advantage in the 60' doesnt it??? As evidenced by the 3.7 0-60mph vs the 3.9 for the SRT....What you said applies to the Viper as well..It wasnt built for the drag strip either. My post was really about the raving about the 12.8 0-100-0 that was duly noted by MT but the 12.1 by the SRT recieved all but invisible coverage.....I bet if you put on a set of Kumho's on that SRT it will be in the high 11sec range in the 0-100-0 test

As for the 996 tt you just did you really think it will beat some of the major SC guys on here??Some of these guys are hitting 150+ in the 1/4...The only Porsche I ever seen or heard come close and beat those numbers was the Eddie Bello monster that used to run at the import events. Ive seen him hit 161mph in the 1/4 at ATCO. Havent heard of a Porsche coming close to that since[doesnt mean none have, I just aint heard of em]..I would love to see that..

 

[McGuireV10]

Motor Trend has a long and well-known history of being biased against American cars. Most of the real car guys I know won't even read it anymore.

 

[Larry Macedo]

The Porsche wasn't built for drag racing and are very difficult to launch properly from a standing start. That being said I would run either of the (2) 996TT's I just finished against most tuner cars from a rolling start

Really???AWD really give it and advantage in the 60' doesnt it??? As evidenced by the 3.7 0-60mph vs the 3.9 for the SRT....What you said applies to the Viper as well..It wasnt built for the drag strip either. My post was really about the raving about the 12.8 0-100-0 that was duly noted by MT but the 12.1 by the SRT recieved all but invisible coverage.....I bet if you put on a set of Kumho's on that SRT it will be in the high 11sec range in the 0-100-0 test

As for the 996 tt you just did you really think it will beat some of the major SC guys on here??Some of these guys are hitting 150+ in the 1/4...The only Porsche I ever seen or heard come close and beat those numbers was the Eddie Bello monster that used to run at the import events. Ive seen him hit 161mph in the 1/4 at ATCO. Havent heard of a Porsche coming close to that since[doesnt mean none have, I just aint heard of em]..I would love to see that..

Snake,

Yes the 996TT is AWD, but if you've ever driven one (?) you'd know how tough the clutch is to handle from a standing start. I didn't say it couldn't be done, I just said it wasn't meant for that purpose. There are a few shops located in Florida that cater to Porschephiles who only drag/street race. Are you telling me that DC built the Gen 3 knowing people would be drag racing these cars and didn't make a few suspension changes geared towards that sport? I know for a fact Porsche didn't build the 911 for drag racing, but for road racing. As for the S/C guys out there, let them bring it. It wouldn't matter to me if I won or lost, it's all about having fun. Which btw, was the whole purpose of my posting...12.1 in the 1/4 is a great accomplishment, although the journalist probably doesn't see the fire in the new Viper like some of us and was all about the Porsche.

 

[Viperzilla]

Most of the real car guys I know won't even read [Motor Trend] anymore.

I believe this after they named the Dodge Caravan the MT Car of the Year a while ago. I never read them, that really shut the book, except when they have a Viper article.

 

[SnakeBitten]

12.1 in the 1/4 is a great accomplishment, although the journalist probably doesn't see the fire in the new Viper like some of us and was all about the Porsche.

Its not 12.1 in the 1/4 its 12.1 from 0-100-0 thats amazing...Any car can go 12.1 in the 1/4.....This post was about the 0-100-0 runs not 1/4 mile times...Sorry if I confused some with all the other talk...

 

[CAS]

I was going to say, that Techart is a lot faster than that.
Thanks for clearing that up, SnakeBitten.

 

[allanlambo]

There are several Porsches in Florida running in the 150's in the 1/4.

 

[Larry Macedo]

12.1 in the 1/4 is a great accomplishment, although the journalist probably doesn't see the fire in the new Viper like some of us and was all about the Porsche.

Its not 12.1 in the 1/4 its 12.1 from 0-100-0 thats amazing...Any car can go 12.1 in the 1/4.....This post was about the 0-100-0 runs not 1/4 mile times...Sorry if I confused some with all the other talk...

Snake,

I guess that is what I get for not reading your post throroughly. 0-100-0 in 12.1 is a great number for the SRT/10. Unless I've missed something posted on the board thus far, a 12.1 in the 1/4 for the SRT/10 is a great accomplishment considering most here have been posting times of 12.4 and 12.5 in the 1/4 for bone stock SRT's.

 

[Martin D]

Darn it Larry - why do you have to live in Florida.

I love 996TT's.... they taste like CHICKEN!!!!!!(plus rolling starts are my specialty)

Regards,

 

[Gerald]

very interesting comparison.. Martin.. pass the chicken!

 

[Larry Macedo]

LOL, those chickens can be very fast...

 

[SnakeBitten]

Unless I've missed something posted on the board thus far, a 12.1 in the 1/4 for the SRT/10 is a great accomplishment considering most here have been posting times of 12.4 and 12.5 in the 1/4 for bone stock SRT's.

I believe there is someone on this board that has done 11.7 @ 124mph on a bone stock SRT.Cant remember his name...Im sure these guys will tell you.....Think there was a video too...Oh John Myrick was his name..

 

[Y2K5SRT]

I believe John Myrick did an 11.8 in his bone stock with a 119 trap speed or thereabouts. It was Motor Trend themselves that pulled an 11.77 @ 124 mph. How about THAT! The SRT is EASY to get into the 12.20's. I pulled one on my second pass on a very slippery track (60' of 2.18 or something stupid). As an inexperienced driver I know I can still get this one into the 11's without too much trouble. I think many of your 12.4's and 5's are people that are brand new to drag racing. As we all know, it isn't as easy as it looks.

Speaking of Porsches, I ran into a 996TT yesterday on the local short track (1/8 mile). Started from a roll at a VERY crappy speed for me: 40 mph. A little high for 1st gear and low for 2nd. He jumped me by a car length (wasn't paying attention) and then we stayed even. Love to catch him at the dragstrip, although I think he could take me based on an AWD launch. I just can't hook up. His was a very nice car: Yellow with black wheels. We traded thumbs ups and that was that.

Chris

 

[Larry Macedo]

Unless I've missed something posted on the board thus far, a 12.1 in the 1/4 for the SRT/10 is a great accomplishment considering most here have been posting times of 12.4 and 12.5 in the 1/4 for bone stock SRT's.

I believe there is someone on this board that has done 11.7 @ 124mph on a bone stock SRT.Cant remember his name...Im sure these guys will tell you.....Think there was a video too...Oh John Myrick was his name..

OK, I've been busted! I truly haven't been keeping up with the times run on the SRT's...Wait a sec, as a matter of fact, I think I posted those times for John Myrick a few months ago. My bad! I thought he was running different sneakers than stock though?

 

[Viperzilla]

Larry, you feeling ok over there in FL? just kidding

 

[Larry Macedo]

I believe John Myrick did an 11.8 in his bone stock with a 119 trap speed or thereabouts. It was Motor Trend themselves that pulled an 11.77 @ 124 mph. How about THAT! The SRT is EASY to get into the 12.20's. I pulled one on my second pass on a very slippery track (60' of 2.18 or something stupid). As an inexperienced driver I know I can still get this one into the 11's without too much trouble. I think many of your 12.4's and 5's are people that are brand new to drag racing. As we all know, it isn't as easy as it looks.

Speaking of Porsches, I ran into a 996TT yesterday on the local short track (1/8 mile). Started from a roll at a VERY crappy speed for me: 40 mph. A little high for 1st gear and low for 2nd. He jumped me by a car length (wasn't paying attention) and then we stayed even. Love to catch him at the dragstrip, although I think he could take me based on an AWD launch. I just can't hook up. His was a very nice car: Yellow with black wheels. We traded thumbs ups and that was that.

Chris

For fear of frying the clutch on a 996TT, I've never really tried to launch one with some real rpm to see what would happen. You have to drop the motor and pull the trans to replace the unit. I did try to lauch one a couple times, but since the clutch is so different from the Viper, it was tough for me to keep from stalling the motor. If I break it, I get to fix it and I didn't really want to make more work for myself.

 

[viper585]

RAn an 11.82 at Commerce Ga. Bone stock. I do have experience, but could hit 11.7 with a little practice. 2 runs only in this car. HIT 12.0 in 02 with corsa and k&n.

 

[allanlambo]

Hey Viper585, is your Countach a U.S. or Euro Car? I had an 87. Any mods on yours? I did a few to mine that really WOKE IT UP! If your interested, i can tell you my experience with it.