That really ***** we have the same problem here in Albany we move from place to place. For the longest we met in front of a K-Mart and Burger King people would eat there andd there was no problem, only untill the past 2 years has the problem started in what I believe to be the rice burners all the *** cars with hydraulics, stereos, and then to top it off there was a knife fight with some people in that crowd which is where it got ruined not to say that everyone that drives a *** car is causing trouble but for over 8 years we congragated in this area with cars from the 60' with open headers up to current day vettes and vipers and no problem, it jsut seems that it is the younger crowd that has spoiled it for everyone.