TPMS

[datruodb]

So if I'm switching wheels and tires do I have to put the sensors back in the new wheels?

 

[Viper Specialty]

All the info you will need...

http://forums.viperclub.org/threads...Sensors-to-work-on-ALL-of-them?highlight=TPMS

 

[PeterMJ]

All the info you will need...

http://forums.viperclub.org/threads...Sensors-to-work-on-ALL-of-them?highlight=TPMS

It is really too bad you did not come up with a way for downloading the sensor codes without taking a trip to the dealer or dismounting the tires. If there was a way to do it, I would be all over these things since I hate going to my local Chrysler dealer as much as the butchers at the tire stores. If there is a tool to get this done, maybe there should be a loan program (with a healthy deposit of course). Something to think about IMO.

 

[Viper Specialty]

It is really too bad you did not come up with a way for downloading the sensor codes without taking a trip to the dealer or dismounting the tires. If there was a way to do it, I would be all over these things since I hate going to my local Chrysler dealer as much as the butchers at the tire stores. If there is a tool to get this done, maybe there should be a loan program (with a healthy deposit of course). Something to think about IMO.

We CAN do that... but the problem is that we have run across people who don't even have the tires that are ON their car correctly programmed, or on the correct corners for that matter. The only way to be 100% certain is to scan the TPMS receiver module, which only the DRB3 can do.

 

[balance]

So if I'm switching wheels and tires do I have to put the sensors back in the new wheels?

If you want to have the TPMS work as it should - then yes. The sensors operate on a specific yet common frequency (Hz). I can't see any drama if you re-use the original sensors or replace with correct Hz new sensors.

 

[Viper Specialty]

If you want to have the TPMS work as it should - then yes. The sensors operate on a specific yet common frequency (Hz). I can't see any drama if you re-use the original sensors or replace with correct Hz new sensors.

Re-use the original, sure. But to replace them, you need to have them programmed at the dealer. The Viper TPMS is NOT a self-learning receiver module.

 

[PeterMJ]

We CAN do that... but the problem is that we have run across people who don't even have the tires that are ON their car correctly programmed, or on the correct coers for that matter. The only way to be 100% certain is to scan the TPMS receiver module, which only the DRB3 can do.

How can this be done? My other cars either have self learning system or use a cheap reset tool, without any need to go to the dealer. And aren't these sensors the same ones that Mitsubishi uses? BTW, is Gen 5 the same way like 4?

 

[Viper Specialty]

How can this be done? My other cars either have self learning system or use a cheap reset tool, without any need to go to the dealer. And aren't these sensors the same ones that Mitsubishi uses? BTW, is Gen 5 the same way like 4?

The problem stems from the fact that the Viper is completely different than just about anything else. It is NOT self learning, and it does not have a "learn mode" either where sensors can be triggered or pressures can be raised/lowered for sensor/corner identification. The only way to enter learn mode is with the DRB3. Period. We have had no luck with any other aftermarket tools to enter learn mode. The sensors are irrelevant, its the receiver that is the problem.

There are a bunch of reasons for this, whether you are duplicating a set of sensors for two sets of wheels, just want to circumvent the dealer when buying/selling a set of wheels, or cannot access the OE sensors with the magnetic activation tool and need an aftermarket RF type sensor because of wheel type, its the best solution.

We can "rent" a tool that can scan the sensors directly, or you can go to the dealer and get the codes via DRB3. The only way to circumvent the re-learn procedure is to "mimic" the sensors with new ones that spit out the same codes the receiver is looking for. Whether this is done via reading the codes with a DRB-3, reading the codes from the sensors directly via RF on a GUARANTEED to be operating correctly system, it is the same procedure technically.

To be honest, everyone makes a mountain out of a mole hill on this, simply because they want everything to be "automatic" like other cars, and don't want to take the 30 seconds to understand that the Viper is not set up like that, so they just leave the system inoperative... which is really freakin' dumb if you want my honest opinion. For christs sake, its there, USE IT. It is not a big deal, nor is it that complicated, nor is it expensive to make it work correctly. Mimic sensors are no more expensive than OE sensors, and the codes can be read in 5 minutes with the tool or a DRB3. The problem here is that rather than contacting some one like *US* that knows how the system works, they rely on dealers and tire shops that have no idea what they are talking about, go round and round with them, and then get frustrated and just leave it.

Sorry for the rant, but this topic is one that drains me. I have made MANY posts about it, and it seems that no one even wants to hear the answer, let alone actually solve it. As soon as they hear that they might have to go to a dealer to get codes, or lift a finger themselves, they get cold feet. Its annoying as hell to consistently solve problems, then everyone just bails out on the finish line.

No, Gen-5 should have 4 receiver modules, and be auto-learn.

 

[PeterMJ]

PM sent. I value peace of mind higher than the price of sensors. After talking to my local Chrysler dealer, I am thinking single digit IQ is required to get a job there and their lack of care and knowledge of Viper keeps me permanently away from them.