TT and then some

[V10 MOJO]

hypothetically;

opinion(s) on just how far these damn vipers can be taken BUT remain a complete daily driver, grocery getter, pumpgas streetcar.

for example; lets take a 750HP all motor viper and then add a TT to it?? is this doable and if so, what (opinions here please) would be expected from this monstrosity as far as power?

i know mild to mod all motor upgrades are fine prior to the big power adders BUT what about a kickass beast of an allmotor car as stated above prior to adding a serious power adder like the TT.

it seems everyone doing the TT is making amazing power (hell there were FOUR vipers in jasons heffner's shop yesterday with TT packages, it would seem SCs and NOS are slowly becoming yesterday anymore) but they are doing this upgrade with a STOCK bucket not a heavily modded all motor car

 

[Martin D]

I think the problem is that to get a N/A car to make 750 HP, you have to have higher compression pistons, milled heads, crazy cam, more cubic inches, and some other things, that don't actually work well at all with a Turbo.

I came to that cross road a while back.....It's all about personal preference.

Regards,

 

[Chuck B 98 GTS]

hypothetically;


it seems everyone doing the TT is making amazing power (hell there were FOUR vipers in jasons heffner's shop yesterday with TT packages, it would seem SCs and NOS are slowly becoming yesterday anymore) but they are doing this upgrade with a STOCK bucket not a heavily modded all motor car

Your kidding right ? You need to take a trip by Doug Levin Motorsports and SEE 15 Vipers under construction for superchargers. It's a matter of preference, blowers and turbos both have pro's and cons. But you WONT see superchargers fazed out anytime at all in the near future. I've had the convenience of both systems and both get the job done. IMHO supercharged Vipers have been proven to take everyday abuse, but turbocharged Vipers have yet to convince me they are any better. Although I'm sure Jason can build you any beast you want.
Great tuners, great choices, but you can't tell what mod is better by what's in the shop. It's what's on the street that counts.


Cheers,
Chuck

 

[V10 MOJO]

chuck, im not saying theyll be phased out, helll thatll never happen as long as internal combustion engines are still spitting out CO. what im saying is it seems like a "changing of the guard" so to speak, the next wave of hvy hitters and jawdroppers. its obviously a matter of choice and sure; pros/coms to any choice. i just find in interesting how the fever is now slowly becoming TT induced. so far, seeing them run the 1/4 mile has been VERY impressive.

 

[CHAD]

It's all about the package and the intended use. A radical all motor car will not easily accept forced induction. As stated above, compression, heads, cam, headers, TB's, etc all come into play. What's best for naturally aspirated is not necessarily good for FI.

One thing about FI. I can not believe just how good my DLM S/C car is on the street. Sorry Doug but I have been beating on it the last two days (I mean familiarizing myself with the equipment) and not only does it keep asking for more (never over 210-220 degrees) but it is so composed. The S/C power is so linear that you can really dial in the power you want to put down and in anything over 750 or so rwhp, that is very important to go fast.

It is going to be very difficult to beat a S/C Viper on the street, ever, IMHO. They are just so linear, so predictable and make great power. Now from 80 or 100 mph rolls, that may be a different story but that is not my average street drive. You?

Chad

 

[Torquemonster]

Without traction control - BADASP makes some good points - a TT car is unlikely to master a SC car of similar power on the street until the speeds get up there - so it will come down to best driver more than likely.

Contrary to others opinions - I think Rich's thoughts are more money than some thought. You can build serious all motor power then boost it - the difference is you build it DIFFERENTY than you would if not boosting. Yes that makes it very expensive - but you get what you pay for.

I'll leave it at that.

Projections?

1300rwhp at full boost in race trim on a daily driver is only a matter of time.

More is possible with streetable becoming a more relative term. The limits are more set by the transmission you will need to handle it and the trade offs from that point. The strongest clutches do not like to slip - so that makes rush hour a chore, and a multi-level parking building a nightmare.

Even a 2000hp blown alky motor could be tuned on EFI to get groceries - but you may not want to live with it every day.

 

[Mike 99ACR]

Did anyone hear why Dr. Roof was selling his high hp Levin car? Is he going turbo on another car?