I love this thread. This is where the real men are hanging out! 900hp and looking for more - you won't see this stuff on the Honda Civic forum
Mark - a 700hp WRX? If you ever find one, I'd like to hear about it. 550hp is about the limit for those flat fours before they start grenading. Someone may get past that for a little while, but not for long I reckon. Still your point was they are good across an intersection. No arguement there - my old Subaru could pull 1.07g in first gear with its AWD. Not bad for a 2 litre four!
Our top local Nissan Skyline is running their 2.6 litre GTR at 8.95 sec at 156mph. It makes much less torque as it revs to 10,000, but makes about 950hp at the crank. AWD makes for a good 60ft. The **** have got 1350hp out of them and run solid 7's in a Skyline and 6's in a lightweight car.
Guys - someone on this board has got a sub 1.4 second 60 foot out of their Viper. That's incredible. I'd make friends with that guy and pick his brain for all its worth. If you can get the weight onto the back wheels and keep the tire planted flat, the 9's will come. It may require changing shocks (at least settings) and spring rates for the track...in fact I'm almost certain of it. It may be you can get adjustability built into the cars so you don't have to physically rip it all out just for a weekends play. The old 90/10 shocks for the front trick can help. Soft rear springs may not be needed with a stiff body and massive power.... it's all about experiementing - that's why I'd get around the guy getting 1.37 60 footers..... they've obviously hit the mark. They probably run close to zero camber and toe in plus a skinnier front tire too?
Anyone topping 150mph has enough power to run a sub nine (about 8.9's based upon trap speeds to drag cars here). That would not be possible in a street Viper, but getting a 60 footer around 1.4 will definitely get you a 9. Hope the trans holds! A 1.6 is a really a good time.... after that its some serious chassis tuning... and sticky tires, obviously not street Pilots!
As for torque vs hp - they're both related over a factor of 5252. Hp and rpms and gears vs torque and lower rpms, less gear etc. Same difference. The NO2 just spins the engine slower to make the torque. The SC needs more rpms to make more hp to make up for the lower torque... but can run more gear to make up the torque.... same end result.
I don't know why anyone isn't running 4.1:1 rear gears - tall gears (anything in the 3's)with big power spins tires worse than low gearing (4:1+) in my experience. The lower rear end gears match the engine speed to tire speed much quicker, whereas the tall rear gears (like stock ratios)are easily overpowered as the engine rpms force the tires to catch up. With a 0.5:1 6th gear - it'd still run just 1700rpm at 60-65mph depending on tire choice. Just my thoughts... with steep gears, you will however be changing gears like men demented
SO NOS has done it, twin turbos (my favourite power source) have done it, who is gonna take the first SC Viper without NOS into the 9's?
My guess is several of you are going to do it - the one closest to a warmer climate will probably be first
Good luck guys, we can't wait to hear the results.
