VCA Raffle car just arrived at Woodhouse!!!

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That begs the question: is this raffle even legit in the other 49 states, then?

I am guessing it is not. I bought 3 tickets and now looks like this is illegitimate. It used to me licensed thru Michigan I think. If it is not legit, how do I get my money back?

I am extremely disappointed that Woodhouse is not conducting the raffle as stated on the flyer. I trust them, I do not trust anybody in the national VCA offices. :mad:
 

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Just have the Frickin raffle this weekend and get that Car out the door before SRTViper notifies the authorities.

I recommend that at least several if not 15 or more members find out where the raffle is being held so that they can witness that a winning card or number was actually drawn.

With all the trouble Chrysler is having with the VCA regarding it being for profit instead of non profit, I am suspecious that the car will be bogusly won by a top officials son in law or neighbor.

You smart-asses better witness the drawing.

No I will just go volunteer to take the car :)
 

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I am guessing it is not. I bought 3 tickets and now looks like this is illegitimate. It used to me licensed thru Michigan I think. If it is not legit, how do I get my money back?

I am extremely disappointed that Woodhouse is not conducting the raffle as stated on the flyer. I trust them, I do not trust anybody in the national VCA offices. :mad:
I am wondering if I got shanked on ALL of the raffle tickets that I bought over the years.
 

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I am wondering if I got shanked on ALL of the raffle tickets that I bought over the years.
well, I don't think they want to say "shanked" more like bent over and butt banged harder than bradley manning on his first night.....but yes, screwed would be the short answer.
 

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So as a Regional VP, do you think the raffle will happen? Is it properly licensed?

yah it will happen regardless, but be assure the car is going to a "pre-determined" winner already chosen.... just like every other previous year.

QUESTION.... does ANYONE know of a member who won a previous year car ? Or do they just win the car and never post and have no Viper club friends because they are afraid of being found out that the winner was rigged from the start,??
 

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Kratediseade, if you looked around this site, you would find a recent thread of people who won the raffle and still have the car. You are acting like a troll, posting without looking or thinking. There are a lot of things wrong with the Viper Club, but their winner drawing of the raffle cars doesn't seem to be one of them. Now the legality of this year's raffle may be. http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/668056-Where-are-all-the-raffle-cars?highlight=raffle
 

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Kratediseade, if you looked around this site, you would find a recent thread of people who won the raffle and still have the car. You are acting like a troll, posting without looking or thinking. There are a lot of things wrong with the Viper Club, but their winner drawing of the raffle cars doesn't seem to be one of them. Now the legality of this year's raffle may be.

Sorry !! I just ASKED a question, ... you can now come down off of your perch....Whewww.... some people take it so personally !!!! MY GOSH
 

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yah it will happen regardless, but be assure the car is going to a "pre-determined" winner already chosen.... just like every other previous year.

QUESTION.... does ANYONE know of a member who won a previous year car ? Or do they just win the car and never post and have no Viper club friends because they are afraid of being found out that the winner was rigged from the start,??

Yes I know a happy owner. And yes, your question is of the tone that makes it sound like you are one of the tin-foil hat crowd. That is the type of question that leadership ignored in the past. They have also ignored what now appear to be very valid questions. They have a problem where they can not go answering all questions posted in the forums because of those that are just for stirring the **** ***.
 

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I just want to make sure it is still going to happen. If not, then I need my $500 back



Well if it's not drawn at Woodhouse as it says above.... I don't see why CC companys wouldn't refund money with what is shown in post #43 as proof. Credit card fraud then?
 

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so now even the raffle is going to have issues? the sky is falling
#LMFAO
 

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Virginia Venom and Krate,

To disparage all the raffles done over the years by VCA and Chrysler/SRT , saying folks have been screwed , is not only extremely inappropriate, it borders on slandering Corporate, and all the various Officers of the Club over the past 12-15 years. With only 70 posts over a 4 year period on this site, just extremely rude and disrespectful to all the parties involved and an apology should be in order. This is the kind of behavior that causes warnings from moderators.

Krate ,

Predetermined winner ??? This is also rude and has nothing to do with anything except trying to stir ---- you say you are not a troll , but trying to just give opinions, this is not an opinion it is an inappropriate accusation. Folks get bent out of shape when they get banned from various Forums, but these are the kinds of statements that cause them. Please go back to the rules of the Forum you agreed to and realize your comments have been tolerated to a point, but when unfound accusations are made that reflect a broad spectrum of individuals ( VCA, Officers, SRT ,etc ) moderators often will warn you or more.

Nuff said.
 

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Virginia Venom and Krate,

To disparage all the raffles done over the years by VCA and Chrysler/SRT , saying folks have been screwed , is not only extremely inappropriate, it borders on slandering Corporate, and all the various Officers of the Club over the past 12-15 years. With only 70 posts over a 4 year period on this site, just extremely rude and disrespectful to all the parties involved and an apology should be in order. This is the kind of behavior that causes warnings from moderators.

Krate ,

Predetermined winner ??? This is also rude and has nothing to do with anything except trying to stir ---- you say you are not a troll , but trying to just give opinions, this is not an opinion it is an inappropriate accusation. Folks get bent out of shape when they get banned from various Forums, but these are the kinds of statements that cause them. Please go back to the rules of the Forum you agreed to and realize your comments have been tolerated to a point, but when unfound accusations are made that reflect a broad spectrum of individuals ( VCA, Officers, SRT ,etc ) moderators often will warn you or more.

Nuff said.

First of all, Mr. Pemberton , I need to say that you have always been truthful and a true gentleman when responding to my posts. You are a shining example of professionalism and the true gold standard of how someone effectively can respond and neutralize any trolls here simply by not insulting them, but instead simply responding using your true intellect to counter.

That said, I want to publically apologize to you and to everyone on the forum here for the comments I have made here regarding my implying or any implication that the raffle is rigged.

My comments were NEVER designed to slander your fine company, Woodhouse. I have ONLY heard the best of you and your company. My comments, based on hearsay and speculation were fueled by the facts presented here on the VCA forum that the Raffle had major issues related to organizational management of it, the representation as to location of the draw, and how these facts coincided with the reveal of negative publicity recently released about the VCA management.

To slander is to knowingly spread false facts. I did not slander anyone, since I never represented that the implications I might have implied were based on fact.... as if I knew factually and falsely that the past raffles (or the current raffle) were fraudulently rigged.

But, despite the above, you still remain correct that an apology is due. And, yes, I truly do apologize to you and all the other people here for that.

And additionally, Mr Pemberton, I realize that these specific posts of mine crossed the "line" in that my posts solely related to the raffle, although not intended to be malicious or spiteful, might appear to cause a stir and unwarranted fear or upset in members who had purchased tickets. That is wrong on my part, and again I apologize to everyone for that. I am man enough to admit my wrongs.

I hope this posts rights the wrongs that occurred related to the subject of the raffle.

..........You are a true Gentleman Mr. Pemberton, and it would be beneath me to disparage you even remotely.


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And now, to all the other members of this forum.........has anyone ever tried using Bison meat in meatballs ? I hear it works great as a low calorie substitute for ground beef....
 
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Virginia Venom and Krate,

To disparage all the raffles done over the years by VCA and Chrysler/SRT , saying folks have been screwed , is not only extremely inappropriate, it borders on slandering Corporate, and all the various Officers of the Club over the past 12-15 years. With only 70 posts over a 4 year period on this site, just extremely rude and disrespectful to all the parties involved and an apology should be in order. This is the kind of behavior that causes warnings from moderators.

teehee, that sounded like a threat. Many have tried, all have failed.

I purchased tickets early for the ring viper after being a first time viper owner. I got those said tickets 2 MONTHS after the drawing occured....yeah, I found it odd then. I also ******* and complained that I hadn't received them....fell on deaf ears.


Edit: I will back off at the requests of others....not you.
 
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VV, give pemberton some slack, your car came from him originally....lol

:)
I know. Just pissed at the windbreaker BS.

I take no Bull**** from any man.

I also find it funny he didn't direct any of that animosity towards redsnake, whom was the person I was talking to in the first place.
 
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Agreed Virginia,

RedSnake's comment was not appropriate either.

The comment was about all the raffles and to paint a broad stroke against all the folks in VCA , SRT, and JR Thompson over all the years just isn't cool.

Will agree there have been some failings, as I too received tickets after the drawing was done two times , both when administered by
JR Thompson. Commenting on your lack of a timely receipt of a ticket would have been fine, whereas your other statement was not really necessary. Legitimate beefs never bother me, just don't like generalized, blanket statements.

Nuff said ...................
 

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My comment was made mostly in jest. But instigated by growing concerns that there could be issues with the raffle process. Do I think previous raffles were "rigged"? No. Is it possible that previous raffles were not operated properly? I don't know the answer to that. But some of the info coming out lately suggests that it might be a good idea to check it out. That's all I am saying. Thank you for your professional replies Bill P.;)
 

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let me be clear....you and no one else get's an apology. I have not said anything against chrysler/SRT. so to say I'm slandering them is just stupid, hell, I own 4 dodges for crying out loud.
 

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