VIPER DAYS ...WILL I NEED....

HOGDEALER

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I am driving to Viper Days about 9 hours away. After two days at the track will I need new tires and brakes in order to get home safely? The Rookie wants to know!!
 

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Depending upon the track, your driving style/skill you will likely need new brake pads. This is not a big deal though. John Archer of Archer Racing Accessories will be trackside and can provide the check for you and provide pads and installation if needed.

Unless you flatspot a tire badly or have little tread to start with I wiould be very surprised if you need tires - although again no big deal because Bobby Archer (Johns brother) provides trackside tire service at most Viper Days events.

Have fun!
 

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What you will need to do is changeyour brakefluid before you come or plan on haveing it done at the track.You will boil your stock fluid at Thunder hill.As jeff said thereis plenty of track support at all Viper Days events.Look foward to seeing you there.

Tom
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Hog Dealer,
Please free to call Skip or Courtney at 847-594-8477 if you have not had all your questions answered to your satisfaction. It is our goal to make your first Viper Days a memorable one!!
As an aside I believe that you will need to purchase tires or brakes if you stay within yourself and learn that speed means smooth and that takes time. Come to class and listen to your in car instructor and you will have a wonderful experience!
But if you need brake pads or a brake flush Archer Racing is also there to service you trackside! Tires are available from Bobby Archer Motorsports at ALL events if you need them.
We look forward to meeting you,
 

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It's the heat that will boil the fluid. Sounds obvious, but it's not. The fluid at the rotor end gets VERY hot and the heat can cause boiling which is denoted by soft or no brake pedal.

If the car is new your fluid should be fine, but if the car is old (meaning fluid is old) you will need to replace it no matter how many miles are on the vehicle.

I used to use Castrol SRF which is very expensive and now use Motul 600. It's very affordable and I haven't had any issues - even at Carolina Motorsports Park which is known to be ******* brakes.

Good catch Tom, I completely overlooked fluid issues. It would be wise to check all fluids...
 

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I should have looked at your signature. You should be fine on fluid with a new car but be sure to talk to Tom at tech inspection and have him do a "first timers" once over.
 

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Last year a fellow west coast member up in Washington drove to all the events. Andrew Boyd, can't remember his screen name (ntmatter?) There might be some searchable posts on his events as he always provided a good report of his participation. Included was the drive to and from the events usually. You should not need another set of tires as you have anti-lock brakes and that will prevent the dreaded flat spotting of a front tire that us pre 2001 have been accustomed to. I would definitely change the brake fluid out to a higher boiling fluid period (Motul 600 or any other equivalent). Doesn't matter if it is only 1000 miles old as it does not have the higher boiling points. The stock fluid will fade and boil period, if not on the first session. It will shortly thereafter as you tend to overbrake the car when starting out. If you generate the heat necessary to boil the brake fluid your stock brakes will also wear faster. Some owners have posted that the stock pads fell off the backing material after some track events do to heat. Will this happen to you all depends on your driving style. The good thing about the Viper days events among the numerous good qualities they provide is the fact that they have excellent track side services provided by the supporting vendors. They travel many miles to support these events over the years. They will have just about everything on there trailers you could possibly need. They have saved my butt a couple of times with various parts and support.
 

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Is it the impurities that cause the fluid to boil? I only have 1000 miles on the car.
Like Alan said "CHANGE YOUR BRAKE FLUID" period. Go to a high "wet" boiling point fluid (Motul 600 is good). Your stock fluid is no good on the track especially Thill where there's alot of braking. I boiled my "new" stock fluid at WSIR which doesn't have nearly the braking of Thill. It only costs around $60 to have someone do it or $20 if you do it yourself. 2 12oz. ottles should do it.
 

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We use Castrol SRF exclusively. We have NEVER had a brake fade issue due to fluid - period. It is not cheap - although recently discovered sources for purchase have made it more reasonable (North American Race Parts in Indy - thanks Fess) but once you have it in there, you really don't need to do but a mini-bleed after each track event - and you don't have to bleed brakes when AT the track.... to me, that and the fact that it's been bulletproof, is worth the money.
 

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We use Castrol SRF exclusively. We have NEVER had a brake fade issue due to fluid - period. It is not cheap - although recently discovered sources for purchase have made it more reasonable (North American Race Parts in Indy - thanks Fess) but once you have it in there, you really don't need to do but a mini-bleed after each track event - and you don't have to bleed brakes when AT the track.... to me, that and the fact that it's been bulletproof, is worth the money.
Agreed!
 

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