Viper handling-When it will bite you long post!

[GTS Bruce]

Recently went to Toronto Motorsports park with the Ontario VCA.Did a little ringing out.The car is easy to control.Slides around happily.Not a monster.I got sideways(Big time)during braking on the 1/4 mile straight for a right hander.That surprised me but was manageble.Very long time ago learned to trail brake and recently tried a circle car(5 years ago)and learned to turn in and brake.The Viper does not like heavy braking while turning and will try to bite you.Switched to brake first straight line(perfect-no problems) then trail braking.Trail not a problem as long as you are in the easing up phase.(I have abs and do not mash the pedal since it still tends to put the car up on its nose using only the fronts and not the rears-unweighting the rear end,making it easier to come around.)Some people had problems with their brakes.I limited the # of laps I did without a break.let the car cool off.Had castrol srf fluid.Was wary of brake overuse.Of course got sideways coming out of a wet spot corner.Not unexpected and no problem. Bruce

 

[Daffy Duck Viper]

The Viper does not like heavy braking while turning and will try to bite you. Switched to brake first straight line (perfect-no problems) then trail braking. Trail not a problem as long as you are in the easing up phase. (I have abs and do not mash the pedal since it still tends to put the car up on its nose using only the fronts and not the rears-unweighting the rear end, making it easier to come around.)

Interesting info, Bruce. Thanks for sharing. Good to know.

I read quite some time ago that the proper way to brake on a motorcycle is to brake before you go into a turn, not while you are in the turn.

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[Gerald]

The Viper does not like heavy braking while turning and will try to bite you. Switched to brake first straight line (perfect-no problems) then trail braking. Trail not a problem as long as you are in the easing up phase. (I have abs and do not mash the pedal since it still tends to put the car up on its nose using only the fronts and not the rears-unweighting the rear end, making it easier to come around.)

Interesting info, Bruce. Thanks for sharing. Good to know.

I read quite some time ago that the proper way to brake on a motorcycle is to brake before you go into a turn, not while you are in the turn.

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When motorcycles turn, they lean. When you apply brakes while in the lean, the bike will automatically want to stand up straight and guess what..... no more turn!

 

[Daffy Duck Viper]

I read quite some time ago that the proper way to brake on a motorcycle is to brake before you go into a turn, not while you are in the turn.

When motorcycles turn, they lean. When you apply brakes while in the lean, the bike will automatically want to stand up straight and guess what..... no more turn!

Ah, well that makes perfect sense. I did not actually know what it was about it that caused the problem on a bike. Thanks for the additional input. Now I know!

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[genXgts]

Hey Bruce, nice to meet up at Cayuga on Sunday, what a blast, I toasted half my Kumhos in that one day, fun, fun, fun......

When I did 10 laps with an instructor he had me scrubbing off speed and cutting in on the apex steady throttle off brake which was hard to master after 10 years of street driving but by the end of the day I had it decent enough. The sensation of cutting into a corner with your foot off the brake is hard to fathom, and knowing if you went in too hard and need brake your in trouble is always comforting. The limits of this car need to be explored on a track (TMP run off room was perfect!) as opposed to the street, it is something that all Vipers owners should give a shot, if only once!!

take care, nice to put a face to the name, didn't get a chance to talk too much as I brought a gang up with me from MI, see ya next time,

Ryan

Gerald send some vids on that new cam with mount! Add the Mons footage if your in the mood....hahaha