Viper vs all on the Road Course

[Early93Viper]

I find it interesting how our Viper fairs against other cars on Road Courses. Here are two europeon Magazines comparing Viper lap times with all the rest:

These are lap times from Nurburgring. The times are from the German car magazine Sport Auto.

The laps where all done by the SAME driver on a dry track.


Car Time Comment
Porsche 996 GT2 7 min 46 sec
Porsche 996 Turbo 7 min 56 sec
Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo 7 min 57 sec 600 HP, racing suspension
Porsche 996 GT3 8 min 9 sec
Ferrari 550 8 min 7 sec
Lamborghini Diablo SV 8 min 9 sec
Ferrari 360 Modena 8 min 9 sec
Chrysler Viper GTS 8 min 10 sec +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Porsche 993 Turbo 8 min 12 sec 430 HP version
BMW Z8 8 min 15 sec 400 HP
Porsche 996 C2 8 min 17 sec
Ferrari F355 8 min 18 sec
BMW M Coupe 8 min 22 sec 321 HP
Audi RS4 8 min 25 sec 375 HP
Porsche 993 C2 8 min 28 sec
BMW M5 8 min 28 sec 400 HP
Porsche Boxster S 8 min 32 sec
BMW M3 Coupe 8 min 35 sec 321 HP
Honda NSX 8 min 38 sec
Honds S 2000 8 min 39 sec
Chevrolet Corvette 8 min 40 sec
Audi S4 8 min 42 sec 265 HP
Lotus Exige 8 min 42 sec
Jaguar XKR Coupe 8 min 49 sec
Mercedes CLK 430 8 min 52 sec


TOP GEAR magazine track times put the Viper at 128.5 IN THE WET with the same driver (the stig).
* Mercedes-Mclaren SLR - 1.20.9
* Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
* Porsche 911 GT3 RS - 1.22.3
* Lamborghini Murcielago - 1.23.7
* Pagani Zonda - 1.23.8
* Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
* Noble M12 GTO-3 - 1.25.0
* Lamborghini Gallardo - 1.25.8
* Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
* Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2
* TVR T350c - 1.27.5
* BMW M3 CSL - 1.28.0
* SRT-10 Viper-128.5+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
* MG SV - 1.28.6
* Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII - 1.28.9
* Alpina Roadster (Z8) - 1.29.0
* Subaru Impreza STi - 1.30.1
* Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
* Audi S4 - 1.30.9
* Porsche 911 Turbo - 1.31.0
* Vauxhall VX220 Turbo - 1.31.3
* Honda NSX Type R - 1.31.6
* BMW M3 - 1.31.8
* Nissan 350Z - 1.31.8
* Mazda RX-8 - 1.31.8
* Ford Focus RS - 1.32.2
* Lotus Esprit V8 - 1.32.5
* Audi TT V6 - 1.32.7
* Noble M12 - 1.33.1
* Mercedes SL55 AMG - 1.33.2
* VW Golf R32 - 1.33.2
* Volvo S60R - 1.35.0
* Ferrari 575 - 1.35.2
* Alfa Romeo 147 GTA - 1.35.6
* Lotus Elise - 1.35.6
* Aston Martin Vanquish - 1.36.2
* Renault Clio V6 - 1.36.2
* Honda Civic Type R - 1.36.5
* Saab 9-5 HOT Aero - 1.37.9
* Maserati Coupe - 1.38.0
* Bowler Wildcat - 1.39.4
* Bentley Arnarge - 1.40.8
* Range Rover overfinch - 1.44.0

Anyone have any more comparisions on road courses?

 

[Casey]

Don't forget that the Euro Vipers come with 400 hp. That extra power means seconds on the track, that's for sure!

 

[Early93Viper]

Don't forget that the Euro Vipers come with 400 hp. That extra power means seconds on the track, that's for sure!

I did not know that. 400hp just the GTS not the SRT-10 right?

 

[Casey]

Don't forget that the Euro Vipers come with 400 hp. That extra power means seconds on the track, that's for sure!

Not sure about the SRT10.

I did not know that. 400hp just the GTS not the SRT-10 right?

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

That stuff is fun to compare and discuss, for example there is no way a 360 can hang with a Viper let alone beat it.

But no matter, for me all I need to see are SCCA rules changes restricting Vipers to make the playing field more fair. End of debate.

 

[Early93Viper]

That stuff is fun to compare and discuss, for example there is no way a 360 can hang with a Viper let alone beat it.

I agree with you. I think on the right track a 360 would lose to a Viper. Although I do think on a tighter track it would be tougher to beat.

 

[01sapphireGTS]

As of a few races ago, the Speed GT series Comp Coupes & GTS cars were running with 50% throttle restriction and a 200 RPM lower rev ceiling...

 

[ruckdr]

360, Enzo, and me ('96 Viper RT/10)

www.nickdiaz.com/transfer/don/EnzoFerrari_Pacific_Raceway_6805_Narrated.wmv

 

[Casey]

The 360 listed was a Challenge Series, which probably makes a difference, as it's set up for the track.

That and a 400hp GTS made for the street.

A better comparison is a 360 off the showroom made for the street.

Or even a GT2 or Comp Coupe made for the track!

 

[Cal Cobra]

That's impressive, as most of the winners are super high $$$$ cars (well so are most of the loosers

I agree, there's no way a 360 should beat a Viper. Maybe the drivers weren't used to all the torque of the Viper?

Cal

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Re: Viper vs all on the Road Course

The 360 listed was a Challenge Series, which probably makes a difference, as it's set up for the track.

That and a 400hp GTS made for the street.

Didn't see where it said that, but maybe right for a 400hp Viper vs. a Challenge 360 on slicks.

 

[Casey]

Re: Viper vs all on the Road Course

The 360 listed was a Challenge Series, which probably makes a difference, as it's set up for the track.

That and a 400hp GTS made for the street.

Didn't see where it said that, but maybe right for a 400hp Viper vs. a Challenge 360 on slicks.

The 360 in the Top Gear Lap has a CS after it. But the other one doesn't. That's the one I saw.

 

[ACR steve]

Re: Viper vs all on the Road Course

The only way a 360 could if it was a challenge car on slicks