Viper Wizzard, Why Does a Gen I Out Torque a Gen II?

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Calling out to the wizzard to help me with why a Gen I's torquier than a Gen II. People are beating me up saying this isn't true. But I know from your car on a roll and a friend's Gen I with only Belanger headers, the torque launch factor is greater. Need your technical prowess to explain.
 

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I know I wasn't beating you up,
I have always just thought that the difference in sound changes perception of speed.
My example was the muscle car that sounds really nasty but just runs lack luster. I thought the Gen I with the side exhaust and open roof made the sound louder/faster!
 

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tators car is tuned by him. ya know the wizard is trying out new stuff on his car before he lets us mortals try it out. he just aint telling us.

that car suprises me everytime i drive with him.
 
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Red IS Faster!! :D
Thats it? Red is Faster? This is the best mechanical theoretical explanation that can be given to the people? Don't hold out on your secret knowledge of this, you have to be able to let some enlightenment out to the public every now and then. This is one of those instances. Don't be stingy like Phil when the eggs are on the table.
 

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If it's true that the Gen I has more torque than the Gen II then the explaination is simple. The Gen I has more backpressure from the headers and exhaust than the Gen II. Backpressure is a key to torque because it allows some amount of raw air/fuel mix to remain in the cylinder for the next cycle. This gives the little extra torque you may feel as opposed to the Gen II's less restrictive exhaust system. A completely free-flowing exhaust system allows for more unspent air/fuel to escape after the initial combustion cycle.

More info found here:
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/backpressure.html
 

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Red IS Faster!! :D
Thats it? Red is Faster? This is the best mechanical theoretical explanation that can be given to the people? Don't hold out on your secret knowledge of this, you have to be able to let some enlightenment out to the public every now and then. This is one of those instances. Don't be stingy like Phil when the eggs are on the table.

If you sell your SLOW Silver RT/10 and buy a FAST Red Viper, then I'll tell you! My info ONLY works on Red Vipers!! :laugh:
 

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Maybe you should put your red up to my green.....HAHAHAHAHAHA......No really you do know how to make people sweat! ;) Love the response~! as i said before you ARE the man!
 

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come on guys, anyone that has ever dealt with Chuck knows he makes you call him on the phone if you want info...

besides, he's totally right about the Red being faster.
 
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What are you guys saying now? I need either a red or a black car? Give me a break! Next thing you know, you guys are going to tell me that Dimitrious pulled Phil down because Phil's car is silver. This post is going straight into the toilet. The Wizzard isn't backing me up except that red is faster and this *** guy is turning this into a racial thing. This post is turning into trash real fast, I gotta get out of here before I start hearing that the fastest cars are yellow. ***!
 

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the first viper was RED so D.C. made all the reds (PRN) the fastest, only us red owners know this its a red secret shhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Chuck you blew the secret
 
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You ********! From now on I'm only talking to people with silver cars.
 

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"You ********! From now on I'm only talking to people with silver cars."

WOW (one problem)...there just aren't that many people for you to talk to (LOL)
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