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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    I chose Porsche track and race models since even GT2 RS is manual transmission only:D I do not dispute the viability of DTC as an option on Viper but simply point out that there may not be a business justification to spend non existent R&D money without assurance the investment is recovered...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    Well, I am looking at Viper ACR and Corvette ZR1, seem like very impressive ring times to me. I know there are manual conversions of GTR out there, could be interesting to see what car like that could do at the ring. 911 TTS does not offer manual, although surprise surprise, don't GT2 and GT3...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    Well, good thing there are still choices out there. I just installed the MGW Gripper in my Viper today, made me very happy:D I just hope my knees do not go out on me, LOL. Curious what you guys would be saying if Viper came with DCT and still did not sell? I honestly do not believe that...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    I think it is good to express yourself although really surprising others find it and read it. Ain't no harm in expressing my disappointment with the turn Vette took, it could have been so much better. I think a complaint about transmission being able to shift faster than you can react is an...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    I do not know, just pointing out that there are means to take this route.
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    Astons depreciate heavily as well, just a higher residual value afterwards. You should test drive one to try it for size, even if you cannot afford one. The dealers selling Astons and Porsche are very accommodating and certainly will let you test drive. I tried for size V8V and V12V, they are...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    What transmission does GT3-R offer?:drive:
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    I do not think it is a noise at all, a matter of different technologies and it really helps narrow down the ultimate objective, do you want a clutchless car or someone else doing the shifting for you.
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    Opinions mean nothing in general-as just validated by Captain Obvious himself and his own opinion. :rolleyes: I was actually going to buy Gen 5 but went with Prius instead... Oh and thanks for free advertisement of my Corvette blog-on Viper forum. I am still trying to figure out why you are...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    At the time Viper came out, C4 ZR1 was a better performer all around, just failed to distinguish itself from the rest of Corvettes visually. Viper had more emotional appeal and perception of needing to be tamed, something that Corvette always left out. I think, and again IMO only, a well...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    If you want Jag with stick, buy Aston Martin:D
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    To those who predict skies falling on Viper on account of upcoming Z06

    Base C7 with Z51 option is 140 pounds heavier than the previous generation equivalent. If the upcoming Z06 does not hit 3600 pounds, it will be a miracle or incomplete info provided by Juechter as usual. Completely agreed on heat soak, it was there with ZR1, it will be there with Z06. New Z28...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    I think the flip flopping does not come from me. First Viper supposed to have an automatic (which to me means a slush box) to accommodate older and handicapped people, now it supposed to come with DCT to attract younger buyers. Which one is it? Or all of the above? Oh and is everyone...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    IMO and only IMO, Viper has a very limited appeal to P buyers, no matter what features it would include. I actually think that a manual transmission emulator would be a horrible idea, not any different than simulating analog rotary dial on a touch screen phone. If you want to go digital, by...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    DCT with fake shifter is not the same as manual transmission, not any different than electronic E-brake in lieu of mechanical emergency brake. If this is where the things are heading, then maybe the Viper should be laid to rest, while it can still be done with some dignity instead of remaining...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    You missed that IF part and my statement being of conditional variety. My statement simply referred to people who feel this way, not me. I hope you can follow my explanation.
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    I am sure you are familiar with the "tongue in cheek" phrase. And do you have results of any market study done by Chrysler supporting your notion? Anecdotal evidence does not mean much when auto manufacturer faces a big re-design expense. Let me give you my own example: I know a person who...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    Where exactly did I make this assumption? You may want to read more carefully all of the posts before concluding anything.
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    This thread became pretty silly. If accommodations for people with disabilities should become a selling point, then why not deal with the side exhaust and those wide and hot sills first? Anyone physically impaired, will have a helluva time getting in the car and out of it, long before the...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    The principal is still the same-if the converter is still there, it is still a slush box, no matter how you slice it, hopefully a bit more efficient one though. I find it funny seeing people kidding themselves that it is not a slush box but feel free to humor yourself.
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    Just like with Corvette, that will depend on gearing. Slush box may have advantage in 0-60 and/or ET but on the track, pretty doubtful, not to mention transmission cooling issues and weight of Challenger.
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    Viper GTS vs 991 Turbo-S

    I've talked to Arnold in the past, very briefly but still... I shall not comment regarding his undersized suits or his cowboy boots. Nevertheless, I never said he was a dummy, I actually thought he was pretty sharp guy, until his maid made son surfaced. Nevertheless, I was referencing his...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    Corvette markets to different crowd and has always been available with automatic transmission, even now, when others offer DTC in lieu of a slush box.
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    I actually think that if Chrysler wanted to sell more Vipers, they would invest in R&D leading to more power, less weight and convertible availability. Instead of slush box option, there should be a supercharger option. Viper is a limited market car regardless of transmission it offers and...
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    Hellcat versus Viper transmission

    Fully agreed. BTW, who is that Ralph?:D

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