'04 Viper Engine only; What's it worth?

[ronniej]

\'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

I have the opportunity to buy a motor from a '04 Viper with less than 2k miles on it. Supposably, it has a cross threaded bolt in the crankshaft pulley and Dodge warrantied the engine. Everything is included (alt,p/s,a/c comp.,all pulleys, all manifolds, injectors, EVERYTHING). What would this beast go for so I'll know what to offer him? Thanks for any insight or should I stay away.

Thanks,
Ronnie

 

[carl B]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

Would Dodge not just replace the pulley??

1 hrs work instead of 2 days, Sounds fishy to me!

Carl

 

[Dave T (BADVENM)]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

In searching for a replacement Gen III motor for my Ram I found a block pretty much stripped of valve covers, accessories, etc for about 7K. I know of 2 others that may have been more complete that were 10.5K and 12.5K. Not sure exactly what all was included in these. A crate motor from Dodge was around 13-15K and likely not with everything on it.

These were for an SRT Ram, the oil pan is different and would not fit a Viper but hopefully give you an idea of price.

 

[ronniej]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

Well, I'm waiting on a call from him. It appears to be the center crankshaft bolt so the crankshaft would have the stripped hole.

Would Dodge not just replace the pulley??

1 hrs work instead of 2 days, Sounds fishy to me!

Carl

 

[big-n-italian]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

could something like this be tapped for a larger sized bolt from a different car?

 

[Anaconda]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

could something like this be tapped for a larger sized bolt from a different car?

Or could you somehow weld the pulley on?

 

[hemibeep]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

I would re-tap the threads to the next size up, it's worth the cost-even if you have to have a bolt made.

I would think $7k would be a deal, and 9-9.5k about average.

 

[futureacrowner]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

I have to seriously wonder about that "story" It takes a dedicated and persistent idiot to cross thread and strip a crank bolt. Even if it's relatively stripped you can still tap it and will most likely be fine, there is very little stress for the given size of bolt.

I'd suspect some other internal damage, but if not it could be quite a score.

 

[Joseph Dell]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

6-7k seems to be average these days. I've seen a few go for 6.5k...

JD

 

[ronniej]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

Here's an email with a description of the problem:

The bolt in question IS the center crankshaft pulley bolt but it is
NOT stripped out, it is only cross threaded in there. The motor DID come
out of a Viper, year model 2004 with less than 2000 miles on the car, and
not a truck, it still has the Viper valve covers on it. The bolt and crank
pulley are STILL on the motor, they were never even taken off, hell....it
even still has the drive belt on the engine. It will run fine just the way
it sits but I'de sure hate to think about slinging that front crank pulley
off while driving the car.

He works at a Chrysler/Jeep dealership and his dad works at the Dodge dealership. He bought the motor to put in a project and doesn't have the funds to even start it. Just wondering how they even knew it was cross threaded? I'm waiting on a phone call from him.

 

[big-n-italian]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

<< It takes a dedicated and persistent idiot to cross thread and strip a crank bolt. >>

i agree. maybe there is debris on the threads making it feel like it is cross-threaded.

someone would have to remove the bolt to be sure.

 

[Chuck B 98 GTS]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

Call Doug Levin(DLM) can repair cranks with stripped bolts stronger than new.

Cheers,
Chuck

 

[ronniej]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

Just got word that the motor was actually out of the SRT Truck. Work order said "bottom crankshaft pulley was found loose and the end of crankshaft was wallowed out". What's the difference between the car and truck engine?

 

[hemibeep]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

Pretty sure the SRT truck motor is the same as viper, just not the older iron V10s.

 

[99 R/T 10]

Re: \'04 Viper Engine only; What\'s it worth?

I thought so too, same engine.