From a roll there is no finite way to measure variables like WHO STARTED FIRST.If you look at the fastest DOCUMENTATED RECORD runs of each car the Gen 3 stock record is around 11.5 and the Z06 record is 10.9 =NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE (the Z06 trapps approx 5 mph faster which is also a ton )A stock Gen 4 AND Z06 are very evenly matched .
I dont quite think you realize how much 6 tenths difference is in a speed contest In the quarter mile 6 tenths is over 6 FULL car lenths difference .If you raced a Gen 4 against a Gen 3 it would be the IDENTICAL THING AS THE GEN 4 Viper and Z06 are a toss up speed wise .Doesn't matter who started first. If they are both rolling at 40mph, it's whoever is pulling away by the end that wins. IE, if the Viper jumps out by 1 car because he started first, but the Z06 accelerates past him, he's faster. Vice versa is true too of course.
Oh, and I'm more interested in the GenIII vs C6 Z06. I find that to be a fairer comparison since both were in 2006. It's also what I'll be running
Doesn't matter who started first. If they are both rolling at 40mph, it's whoever is pulling away by the end that wins. IE, if the Viper jumps out by 1 car because he started first, but the Z06 accelerates past him, he's faster. Vice versa is true too of course.
Oh, and I'm more interested in the GenIII vs C6 Z06. I find that to be a fairer comparison since both were in 2006. It's also what I'll be running
Exactly my Gen 4 was run by Smith in the exact same weather he ran the Z06 in (Super Chevy Test )both at Englishtown and my Viper was slightly faster (which is a direct reflection of Jamies times )No way in the world a Gen 3 coming anywhere near that i mean not even in the same ballpark.Smith in 93 degree heat running into a 5mph headwind was popping 11.4-11.5 all day long in the Vette.Well, if a car jumps the other car by about a car...the amount of ground that will have to be made will be considerable...because the other car has already began accelerating before the other car...it is not as simple as say both cars starting exactly at the same time with one car difference...makes sense?
If an 06 Viper is one car ahead before both cars punch it, the Z will pass it in no time. If the 06 Viper punches it and the Z punches it AFTER the Viper is already one car ahead, the ground that will have to made up will be much much more as the Viper had already began accelerating before...I am sure there is a way to calculate this exactly but thinking about it already gives me a headache...LOL.
I don't know why the 08 Viper was brought into the equation as your question was about a GenIII so I will stick to that (as I have a gen IV Viper and THAT is a driver's race against a C6Z06, no matter what anyone tells you).
So...on the road course, which again, seems the question at hand, yes, if you are running consistent times than the Z06, you ARE a better driver...and you have every reason to throw it on Z06 driver's face...
Z06's brakes will overheat sooner or later, especially if you are very aggressive on the braking (raises hand). If the driver of the Z is much smoother the brakes will last a LONG time. A lot of Z's switch to dot4 and more aggressive pads, but the biggest complaint is that the cooling ducts are too far from the actual rotors/brakes, so a lot of them also insert ducts that accomplish much more efficiency when cooling.
The runflat's are crap on the Z...however, they are extremely predictable and also do not overheat as quickly as the "stock" tires on the Viper. The runflats also have very stiff sidewalls which is very helpful on the roadcourse...but the grip would be the advantage on the Viper.
Have fun on course and be safe...
Thats my exact point as since a Gen 4 and a Z06 ARE IDENTICAL ACCELERATION WISE logic maintains in any contest of acceleration they would win over a Gen 3.Dont get horsepower fixated because while a Gen4 has more than a Z06 the Vette is MUCH lighter and geared better as everyone has told you an acceleration contest between the two(GEN 4 AND Z06 ) is a toss up.
OK, so we agree that a Z06 should accelerate and be faster than a Gen III in a straight line from a roll. Got it
Twister YOUR WRONG AS EVIDENCED BY THE Furmans documentated records in both cars A 10.9 IS A 10.9 his trap speeds were close to .You admit you have never driven a Gen 4 Viper i have owned one (produced one of the best times ever on YOUR list for an 08 )and i can tell you NUMERIOUS friends own Z06 it is not walking away from a Z06 IT IS VERY CLOSE
Twister last time i checked all you need is one person to run a number to set a record and a TRAP SPEED OF 128 MPH in a Z06 PROVES its right there with a Gen 4 .Last time you tried this the record holder himself (Jamie Furman )got on here and told you you were wrong are you saying he lyed when he said a Gen 4 and Z06 were a toss up acceleration wise.I think he would know since he basically owns and holds records in every RECORDIN IN American supercar out there.
Too bad the car doesn't do anything for me visually (looks like every other vette out there). I'm 80% performance, 20% looks
That car was modded (HEADER PCM ECT )if you compare trap speeds (TWISTERS LIST )FOR JAMIES RECORD SETTING RUNS IN BOTH CARS STOCK you will see that they are less than 1 mph apart (while a Gen 3 is close to 7mph less ) ET is also less than a tenth diffence.I mean last November on a cool test and tune night at Englishtown Smith grapped a friends stock Z06 for *hits and giggles and trapped 128 at 11.5 .People use the old i raced my buddy with my Gen 3 against his Z06 in a side by side race (we both hit it after the third horn honk )and i pulled him by 3 lenghts AS A FINITE TEST CRITERIA TO PROCLAIM A GEN 3 FASTER OR THE OLD IT HITS MUCH HARDER. Those kind of tests or statements are worthless to determine what car is faster. DOCUMENTATED RECORDS and documentated records only are the ultimate authority THATS WHY WE HAVE THEM.
