Vooodoo ACR
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Production was over when the ACR set the record for MMP. The ACR-X is obviously based on the ACR, yet the Viper Cup series is still going. The Gen IV Viper is still making its mark until the Gen V arrives.
2012 ZR1 sets new ring record
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Production was over when the ACR set the record for MMP. The ACR-X is obviously based on the ACR, yet the Viper Cup series is still going. The Gen IV Viper is still making its mark until the Gen V arrives.
looks like the Z06 cut 20 seconds of the last posted time too....only within less than 1 second of the ACR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok1WUO3p1oQ
...nice time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok1WUO3p1oQ
...nice time.
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Leojmcca has it all correct, the competition is just making this the true muscle car era, with machines than really are almost beyond our dreams. Kind of funny that a 2012 car barely beat our 2008, and now that a 2009 whipped up on a 2011 Vette at Miller Motorsports Park by almost 4 seconds, it keeps the fire burning. I hope this back and forth battle keeps going , as it is a sure bet that automotive engineers around the World are not all hellbent to create a better Prius!!
Ya gotta love VooodooACR too, as an ex ZR1 driver he is in the thick of it defending the ACR ---- converts are the most rabid Viper owners. Heh, he should know , as he has owned both, ha!!
Ya gotta love VooodooACR too, as an ex ZR1 driver he is in the thick of it defending the ACR ---- converts are the most rabid Viper owners. Heh, he should know , as he has owned both, ha!!
46hemi
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Before everyone gets too excited about competing with the ZR1 first you have to beat the lowly Z06 which put up a time 3 secs faster than the ACR.
So reading comprehension isn't your strong suit?
If it was three seconds faster than the ACR, it would have beat the ZR1 tme you dipshiit.
46hemi
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Easy does it cowboy.
ACR Time is 7:22
Z06 Time is 7:19
Hmmm.
Link Provided without a need for name calling. Happy reading, just take your time, I am confident you can do it!
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/0...m=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Carscoop+(CARSCOOP)
BTW the Vette is an American Car so its not really a fair comparison.
ACR Time is 7:22
Z06 Time is 7:19
Hmmm.
Link Provided without a need for name calling. Happy reading, just take your time, I am confident you can do it!
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/0...m=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Carscoop+(CARSCOOP)
BTW the Vette is an American Car so its not really a fair comparison.
You're an idiot.
7:19 is the ZR1 time.
Read. Learn.
The most important change for the 2012 model is the available competition-orientated Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure tires, which helped the Z06 turn around the ‘Ring in just 7:22.68.
Feel kinda stoopid?
7:19 is the ZR1 time.
Read. Learn.
The most important change for the 2012 model is the available competition-orientated Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure tires, which helped the Z06 turn around the ‘Ring in just 7:22.68.
Feel kinda stoopid?
46hemi
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OK. I stand corrected. So the Z06 at 500HP tied the ACR. I guess you win??
The Z06 has 505hp...not 500. This is a roadcourse...horsepower isn't everything.
shooter_t1
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We don't, but I think you do.
Awesome job with the Z06. Gotta hand it to Chevy. Same time as the ACR with 95 less HP and no Aero.
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troublemaker
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I think everyone should be happy that the record keeps getting traded back and forth between two American cars. Both are amazing cars and are doing it in the backyard of those that feel American cars can't handle. This may have already been said, so if it has, it never hurts to hear it again.
Makes you wonder why someone would shell out 110K+ for a ZR1 when it's only two seconds faster over 7+ minutes
than a Z06 with performance package. That must be a 40K price difference a least?
GTS-R 001
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I don't know if anyone else here has caught this one IMPORTANT line in the Corvette Ring article
"However, GM noted that in 2005, the Z06 was timed from a standing start instead of the rolling start technique used on the latest Z06 and ZR1 models."
The ACR used a rolling start as well, the same BS Nissan did, so when you look at it, the champion was not much of a real champion considering
1) USE OF NON STREET TIRES
2) USE OF NEW "RING RECORD" NISSAN INSPIRED ROLLING START
3) RACE AERO
I wonder how many cars would be at 7:22 or better with the addition of all 3 of the above...
"However, GM noted that in 2005, the Z06 was timed from a standing start instead of the rolling start technique used on the latest Z06 and ZR1 models."
The ACR used a rolling start as well, the same BS Nissan did, so when you look at it, the champion was not much of a real champion considering
1) USE OF NON STREET TIRES
2) USE OF NEW "RING RECORD" NISSAN INSPIRED ROLLING START
3) RACE AERO
I wonder how many cars would be at 7:22 or better with the addition of all 3 of the above...
Nine Ball
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Makes you wonder why someone would shell out 110K+ for a ZR1 when it's only two seconds faster over 7+ minutes
than a Z06 with performance package. That must be a 40K price difference a least?
The Z06 with all the upgrades is still in the $90K range, once you include all the ZR1 parts on it. Basically it is an all-motor ZR1 at that point. They built that version specifically for the track guys. The "normal" Z06 doesn't have the carbon brakes, the splitter/skirts, mag shocks. Those are in the $65-75K range. I've also seen new ZR1s (left over inventory) in the $90s. Friend just bought one for $98K fully loaded, brand new.
Nissan inspired rolling start?? Huh? Since when were lap records on any closed road course timed from a standing start? So is the ACR lap record at Laguna invalid then? How about Miller?
But it wasn't a 2012 ZR1 or Z06, which is what we are talking about here.
GTS-R 001
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Nissan inspired rolling start?? Huh? Since when were lap records on any closed road course timed from a standing start? So is the ACR lap record at Laguna invalid then? How about Miller?
Yes, Nissan,
i believe there was a big controversy when Nissan claimed the GTR had taken over the record a few years back and it ended up that they did a rolling start vs the previously practiced standing start. I may be wrong but that explains why Chevy made the above captioned statement as well, they were being honest, otherwise one could be led to believe that the new car is 20 seconds faster than the old car, which it is not, it is because of the difference in how they did it this time.
Well it looks to me like everyone sort of makes up their own rules for timing laps at the Nurburgring. Now there seems to be some question about where the lap times were started and ended. Until there is one set standard that everyone adheres to, these Ring times mean diddly to me.
v10enomous
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Unless of course the Viper owns the record lap
Let's move on... Dodge needs to get another horse in the race or Snake I should say.GTS-R 001
Enthusiast
That's exactly my issue with all the Ring records, what is the standard??
It should be set up like a race classification and have set rules, I think the earlier way of dead start was a more fair way, but i can see the point of the rolling start as well, the new gearing in the 2010 ACR would have helped there as well as the car was banging on the rev limiter as it went through the start trap area.
Unless of course the Viper owns the record lap
Uh......no.
Vooodoo ACR
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I definitely qualify as a rabid Viper owner! hahaha
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