2015 Z06 specs leaked 620hp/650tq

[DMan]

Look below you, if the Viper offered ceramic brakes, someone would find something else to complain about.

People complain of the Price of the viper at the cost of an optioned out GTS still, but in reality you can find one for well under $100k

Just boring yammering by people who are just into complaining.

Well yea, but we were talking about making me happy.

It's so true, its like marrying Haley Barry and cheating on her, I mean really?! Oh, wait, that really happened.

It's impossible it please everyone. I swear if SRT announced the viper was getting a twin turbo V8 with a variable boost control for 600-800hp output and inter coolers to avoid any possible heat soak, people would complain that it's no longer a viper without a V10 and completely overlook the HP etc. It's always something.

 

[drl650]

The tires may be really sticky?
Michelin has been working on the tires for two years

The tire company bought its own C6 ZR1 to test the new Pilot Sport 2 and Pilot Sport Cup rubber it’s developing for the new Z06. That’s commitment. (And probably a pretty entertaining job.)


Read more: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sho...olet-corvette-z06-9-more-things#ixzz2qWKtEMA6

 

[VENOM V]

The tires may be really sticky?
Michelin has been working on the tires for two years

The tire company bought its own C6 ZR1 to test the new Pilot Sport 2 and Pilot Sport Cup rubber it’s developing for the new Z06. That’s commitment. (And probably a pretty entertaining job.)


Read more: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sho...olet-corvette-z06-9-more-things#ixzz2qWKtEMA6

I've got to say that this is a thorn in my side! We get mediocre yet very expensive Corsas while the Z/28 gets kick ass Trofeo Rs. The Z06 gets specially developed Sport Cup 2s, optimized for 2 years just for the C7. It seems to me a no brainer that you must equip your car with competitive tires to compete. Come on SRT, give us some better tires! Pirelli, get it the game! Rant over

 

[steve e]

Maybe its the tire size, isn't the Viper tire size bigger than most anything out there, the tire companies are all about the money, they might not want to tool up for just a few tire sales for a low volume car, the more common sizes that fit Vettes and tons of other mass produced cars are where they will spend time and money. Its always seems that I have a slim selection of tires for my Viper, my GT 500 there are tires from every company out there in six different colors.

 

[VENOM V]

Maybe its the tire size, isn't the Viper tire size bigger than most anything out there, the tire companies are all about the money, they might not want to tool up for just a few tire sales for a low volume car, the more common sizes that fit Vettes and tons of other mass produced cars are where they will spend time and money. Its always seems that I have a slim selection of tires for my Viper, my GT 500 there are tires from every company out there in six different colors.

True, but tire companies do make special model tires just for Ferraris and other low volume products. And Ralph tweeted a picture of a Trofeo R quite a while ago and implied that it was coming soon to the Viper. I just hope they don't wait until the ACR, we could use that tire now.

 

[bushido]

The C7R..

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[SnakeBitten]

^^ Nice. Can't wait to see the C7r/GTSR mix it up at Le Mans.

As for the C7 Z06 vs GTS/SRT/TA Viper I think that the winner will be the one with the best rubber brought to the fight. That is around a race track.

I think the Z06 will defeat the Viper easily in a straight line, however, regardless of tire. My reason is because of the transmission. The Porsche and GTR, both with much less power, beat the Viper in the straights due to mainly transmission and awd. Now add the Z06 with comparable to Viper power and that new tranny and its most likely lights out for the Viper in any straight line race between the two. Some may care about that and some may not. But big displacement plus FI and a DCT/modern auto is going to be nasty. It should be easy 130+ traps in the 1/4 by mag drivers. I reserve the right to be wrong however. Everything looks and sounds real good on paper hence the speculation free-for-all.

 

[rollymohan]

the onlycost effective way to keep up with the viper is to supercharge your engine and that is what gm is doing.i still think the viper has avery good platform for twin turbo so soon all vipers can be with forced induction.

 

[BigDawg]

In the aggressive looks department, not performance:

Z07/Z06 > Viper GTS
GTS-R/GT3-R > C7R

 

[bluestreak]

That auto trasmission almost certainly means doom on the drag strip, and if it performs like they claim on the track, with mostly not so great driving journalists, it's doomed there too. Especially on an inferior tire.

I've got to say that this is a thorn in my side! We get mediocre yet very expensive Corsas while the Z/28 gets kick ass Trofeo Rs. The Z06 gets specially developed Sport Cup 2s, optimized for 2 years just for the C7. It seems to me a no brainer that you must equip your car with competitive tires to compete. Come on SRT, give us some better tires! Pirelli, get it the game! Rant over

Agree, at least make it an option. Part of the problem is the Viper's huge tires are shared by many cars to SRT would probably have to front the development testing for an OEM tire alone. If the tire company doesn't see the market (which limited production Viper sales are not) as substantial, it's far fetched.

It's mandatory they get it done though.

 

[PDCjonny]

http://www.enginelabs.com/news/lt4-engines-chief-engineer-hints-more-power-is-coming/

C7 Z06 conservative HP estimate?

 

[Bobpantax]

So we have eight pages discussing a car that does not exist for the buying public yet. In the meantime it is 58 degrees in Miami and I can tell you that my TA likes 58 degree weather. ( Yes - after the tires are warmed up.) There is no guarantee that any person will be around when this Vette becomes available. In the meantime there are great buys on Gen Vs now. Performance deferred or delayed could end up as performance never experienced. JM2Cs.

 

[ArnarFB]

So we have eight pages discussing a car that does not exist for the buying public yet. In the meantime it is 58 degrees in Miami and I can tell you that my TA likes 58 degree weather. ( Yes - after the tires are warmed up.) There is no guarantee that any person will be around when this Vette becomes available. In the meantime there are great buys on Gen Vs now. Performance deferred or delayed could end up as performance never experienced. JM2Cs.

I'm going to central Florida in March/April and we are thinking about taking a trip to Miami and have a look around town... so... you wanna park your TA somewhere where I can drool all around it? PROMISE I won't drool on it

 

[PDCjonny]

So we have eight pages discussing a car that does not exist for the buying public yet. In the meantime it is 58 degrees in Miami and I can tell you that my TA likes 58 degree weather. ( Yes - after the tires are warmed up.) There is no guarantee that any person will be around when this Vette becomes available. In the meantime there are great buys on Gen Vs now. Performance deferred or delayed could end up as performance never experienced. JM2Cs.

Yes, how silly and wasteful discussing cars on a car forum in January.

 

[Bobpantax]

Not silly. I feel your Northeast weather winter pain. Believe me I know. I used to live in Taxachusetts. A winter rental or second home in Florida can help with the Viper winter blues. If I recall correctly, Ferrari to Viper just came down and joined the fun.

 

[wikkid]

Now that is badass

 

[Boxer12]

I agree with you Big Dawg, but the C7Z06 is a track oriented car and more a challenger to the ACR than the GTS which is a true GT car, and for that comparo we willl have to wait.

 

[05Commemorative]

I agree with you Big Dawg, but the C7Z06 is a track oriented car and more a challenger to the ACR than the GTS which is a true GT car, and for that comparo we willl have to wait.

I am not following this statement.

From the data we have seen, the TA has the best track time with the GTS very very close to it and then the base SRT model super close as well. Almost splitting hairs between them, especially if the aero bits are installed with the production models. So, why is the GTS a true GT car? Please don't tell me because it has a nice interior... At one level, this could be a huge complement to the GTS, but also somehow implies it is not a track oriented car (which it is) Also, why the is C7Z06 a track oriented car when it has a blower on it that no other manufacture puts on their track cars? Reality, the car is not even produced so no telling what it really is, but if they had not put a name badge on it, wouldn't we all have assumed it was the ZR1 replacement? (which was not the track oriented corvette).

 

[Boxer12]

Well, maybe go back and read BigDawg's statement...its about "aggressive looks" not data. IMO the Viper nation has a true tack car for 'aggressive looks' comparison, the G4 ACR, which is even more aggressive than the C6Z07. I don't mean to imply a GTS is not capable on the track but on the comparison of 'aggressive looks' IMO, the GTS 'looks' kinda 'slick' and IMO is very 'GTish' compared to a G4 ACR and what I expect the G5 ACR to look like and be...bear in mind that my ACR doesn't have a radio or even carpet so I may be coming at this from a different angle.

 

[Bobpantax]

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Isn't this aggressive?

 

[Bruce H.]

Isn't this aggressive?

Yep...and drop dead gorgeous!

 

[DMan]

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Isn't this aggressive?

Wow, that's the most beautiful C7 I've seen yet.

Oops, sometimes I forget what forum this is.

Wow, that's a sweet snake, looks like the definition of murdered out.

 

[v10enomous]

Lots of mixed reviews on the new Z06 over on Corvette Forums...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-z06-discussion/3404555-c7z-or-gen-v-viper.html

 

[GONABITE]

I have owned both Vipers and corvettes as most of us here have. Currently have a ZR1.

This thread is the most viewed and replied to in months here. And some say it doesnt belong. Why?? Because some are threatened by it? Im a car enthusiast and enjoy all cars with great performance. I'm not blinded by one brand or model. Lets enjoy the manufactures pushing the envelope in hopes of SRT making a better car.

What has always amazed me about this forum is that many people are so defensive about the Viper and cant stand another car, especially the Corvette. It kills me that so many people think the Viper is the best car money can buy and that drag racing means nothing, because the Viper doesn't do well in a straight line.

My opinion has always been the Viper looks better than the Corvette, but I want performance and yes in a straight line and the twisties. Im not a professional driver so the extra few tenths of a second or a couple of seconds that the Viper may be quicker than the corvette means nothing to me. All that has become is bragging rights that most of us here couldn't achieve anyway. So why do so many stand behind that fact?

This new Z06 is going to do a good job on the Viper most definitely on the drag strip by at least a half second if not more, on the twisties, it will be a drivers race I feel. These two cars are going to fight it out to the end. According to GM we wont know for a year how it performs at the Ring. And if it runs faster than the Viper, then what? Because its a possibility guys.

 

[Twister]

Why would a 635 hp corvette at 3450 pounds be faster than a 640 hp viper at 3350 pounds manual to manual?

Some of you are smoking crack. From what I see so far the viper is more powerful and weighs less?????


Other than the quick shifting 8 speed auto from a dig how do we figure the z06 is faster straight line?

 

[Bobpantax]

If it runs faster than the Viper that will be a good thing. SRT will then have to step up to the plate and meet the challenge. Competition is the American way.

 

[GONABITE]

Why would a 635 hp corvette at 3450 pounds be faster than a 640 hp viper at 3350 pounds manual to manual?

Some of you are smoking crack. From what I see so far the viper is more powerful and weighs less?????


Other than the quick shifting 8 speed auto from a dig how do we figure the z06 is faster straight line?

Because a 2009 ZR1 that weighs more than the current Viper has proven to be faster. Quite a few mid 10 second passes. And no weight has been released on the Z06. But im sure your numbers are close anyway.

 

[GONABITE]

If it runs faster than the Viper that will be a good thing. SRT will then have to step up to the plate and meet the challenge. Competition is the American way.

Yes I hope SRT takes the challenge. Please SRT take the challenge!!!!

 

[klamathpro]

Why would a 635 hp corvette at 3450 pounds be faster than a 640 hp viper at 3350 pounds manual to manual?

Some of you are smoking crack. From what I see so far the viper is more powerful and weighs less?????


Other than the quick shifting 8 speed auto from a dig how do we figure the z06 is faster straight line?

ZR1 weighs just over 3405 lbs. The C7 Stingray weighs 3444. If the Z06 C7 weighs close to the ZR1 with a carbon fiber hood and roof, and it already is faster than the ZR1 and produces more low/midrange torque, based on what they are saying. It's not just HP numbers, the Viper used to be the car that had more torque than HP and produced most of it down low back in the GEN1/2 days of **********. For this Z06 to be faster than the ZR1 could mean that this supercharger combo is producing some awesome low to midrange torque where it matters. Though the HP of the Viper has gone up significantly from 450 to 640 peak over the years, the torque has not been exponentially keeping up. If GM ends up with a midrange torque monster, it could pose a threat. It all depends on how the curve looks. Given that the ZR1 was consistently faster in a straight line (0-60 and 1/4 mile times) than the GEN5, I don't see why the Z06 wouldn't be either, especially with that faster spooling charger. Peak HP numbers don't help if it takes a few tenths longer to reach that RPM. I wouldn't be surprised if this Z06 could do sub 3's to 60 given that the ZR1 on a good day could do it in 3.1 sec; impossible for a stock GEN5. The bottom line is, GM made it clear that this is it for a while, no ZR1 planned right now. So they are working hard to make sure this beats the old halo car. I want to see SRT answer back, but they need to get past this HP wall. If Lambo can produce 700HP+ from a 6.5 liter engine, I'm sure SRT can come up with bigger power from the 8.4.

 

[05Commemorative]

ZR1 weighs just over 3405 lbs. The C7 Stingray weighs 3444. If the Z06 C7 weighs close to the ZR1 with a carbon fiber hood and roof, and it already is faster than the ZR1 and produces more low/midrange torque, based on what they are saying. It's not just HP numbers, the Viper used to be the car that had more torque than HP and produced most of it down low back in the GEN1/2 days of **********. For this Z06 to be faster than the ZR1 could mean that this supercharger combo is producing some awesome low to midrange torque where it matters. Though the HP of the Viper has gone up significantly from 450 to 640 peak over the years, the torque has not been exponentially keeping up. If GM ends up with a midrange torque monster, it could pose a threat. It all depends on how the curve looks. Given that the ZR1 was consistently faster in a straight line (0-60 and 1/4 mile times) than the GEN5, I don't see why the Z06 wouldn't be either, especially with that faster spooling charger. Peak HP numbers don't help if it takes a few tenths longer to reach that RPM. I wouldn't be surprised if this Z06 could do sub 3's to 60 given that the ZR1 on a good day could do it in 3.1 sec; impossible for a stock GEN5. The bottom line is, GM made it clear that this is it for a while, no ZR1 planned right now. So they are working hard to make sure this beats the old halo car. I want to see SRT answer back, but they need to get past this HP wall. If Lambo can produce 700HP+ from a 6.5 liter engine, I'm sure SRT can come up with bigger power from the 8.4.

In the press, they clearly stated the zo6/7 would weight more than the stingray base car. They also did not say it was faster than the ZR1, but said it was close. The only place they said faster was on their track test which we really don't know much about. Only point being, from the statement GM has listed, the following was said:
1) weights more than the C7 Stringray (thus heavier than prior ZR1)
2) less power, more torque than prior ZR1
3) close to performance of prior ZR1

What is interesting, when you factor all that that in, pretty amazing a car with a V10, steel frame and steel brakes weighs less than a V8, aluminum frame and carbon brake car.