Anyone have take-off Top Feed Fuel Injectors?

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I figure someone may have a set laying around. I will consider any top feed injectors (Std. Bosch/Ford length) up to 53 pounds or so, prefer 34-42 pound. Can be saturated (high imp) or Peak & Hold (Low Imp) but prefer P&H.

Perhaps someone has a set taken off a Roe SC or something of the like?
 

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I have ten. These #'s written on them. I think they are 53lb: Ford XL3V-A5A, 927, 280 150 558. Make an offer. pm or email me at [email protected]
 

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Green Tops should be 42 pound.

Can you measure the impedance accross the coil? I believe those will be 12-14, but not 100% sure.

Mileage?
 

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Sorry to sound like an idiot but how do you do that? :dunno: The tuner took these out and replaced with 650cc's. That's all I know. I'm not very mechanically minded. They have about 3,000 miles on them.
 

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ohm-meter will provide a resistance reading but not impedence. Impedence measuring equipment is beyond anything sold at Radio Shack.
 
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ohm-meter will provide a resistance reading but not impedence. Impedence measuring equipment is beyond anything sold at Radio Shack.

Whoops... you are correct, forgot that they are both measured in ohms. I was actually looking for the resistance number in ohms, though its impedance will follow suit as a high resis. Inj is a High Imp, and a low resis. Inj. is a Low Imp.
 

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don't laugh, but when i needed some, i went to the mustang forums (www.corral.net/forums) and looked in the classifieds. I had no trouble finding someone to sell me 8 30lb injectors. and then i had no trouble finding someone to sell me 2 more. oh yeah: high impedance i think.

just my .02...

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don't laugh, but when i needed some, i went to the mustang forums (www.corral.net/forums) and looked in the classifieds. I had no trouble finding someone to sell me 8 30lb injectors. and then i had no trouble finding someone to sell me 2 more. oh yeah: high impedance i think.

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nope... not laughing. Half the injectors around are Ford Motorsports it seems anyway. I'll check it out over there too.
 
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whats the difference between high impedance and low ???


High Imp. are called "saturated" injectors, while Low Imp. are called "Peak and Hold" Injectors. Saturated injectors fire with about 1 amp of current, and are held open with about 1 amp of current. Peak and Hold Inj. have a much beefier coil, and are fired at 4-5 amps, and then within a couple ms of opening, are reduced to one amp. Effectively, they Open MUCH faster, they are prevented from overheating during static conditions by the 1 amp "hold" driver, and also close faster because they are less susceptible to being slowed during closing by electromagnetic induction due to their low hold-open current. generally larger injectors will be of the P&H variety.

P&H injectors can be run in a saturated circuit by using resistors, but they effectively become Saturated injectors as such, and have no P&H properties... in some cases, they may be slower than a true saturated injector. Saturated injectors can also be run in a P&H circuit, but their P&H functions are greatly reduced as they have their own internal high-resistance, preventing a full 4-5 amp firing. They may gain a little speed by way of the current reduction, but thats about it.

Generally, its best to stick with the correct injector, resistors are just a cost-cutting measure as P&H are generally cheaper to buy in high-flow injectors. If you REALLY need a HUGE injector (over 60-70 lbs), get a true P&H driver, and run them correctly. There are excellent P&H drivers on the market that will turn saturated signals into a true 4-1 P&H signal, and make sub-1ms injector firing possible. For example, a stock saturated Viper injector idles at about 6-8ms. I have run 96lb P&H injectors on an SRT w/a P&H driver at full fuel system pressure, idling at ~.8ms without a problem. (also note, the rough calculation is 3x the injector size, but the pulse is about 1/10 that of the saturated injector- thats how much faster a P&H responds than a saturated. A saturated injector run at .8ms would not even open fully if at all, thats why idle quality would be so horrible.)
 
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