Supercharged Vipermad
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I am considering buying one of these years... can someone please list all of the changes and "standards" that different years got? Such as ABS, "CreamPuff" Vs. "Muscle Vipers", interior changes, etc? Thanks all!
Differenes between 96-01 Viper GTS?
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I like the 1998's. They seem to have less problems than some of the other years. I maybe wrong on this, but that year seems pretty solid.
Chuck 98 RT/10
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I like 98 the best. It still has the rough idle, rough ride, 17 inch wheels and an upgrade from 97 - alarm switch in the glove box.
speedshftr
Enthusiast
airbag switch,different wheels,interior trim,foglight covers,cam profile, headers,engine managment for emissions.glove box locks,abs,remote mirrors, colors .i know i missed some but this can start you out.my 2000 does not have the lumpy cam my 96 has but the 2000 is much smoother of a car.i wont pick my favorite because there all killer cars regardless of options ect.
Supercharged Vipermad
Enthusiast
how about the 96-97 GTS engine Vs. the 98+? I know the 98+ runs smoother, but how are they as far as response to upgrades, etc? is the amount of power the stock engine can handle increased or decreased in 98+? I also heard a rumor that 96-97 had weaker rods, but stronger pistons, and 98+ has weaker pistons but stronger rods... is this true or not? how much power can each handle in stock form? Thanks!
Chuck 98 RT/10
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Daniel Lesser:
how about the 96-97 GTS engine Vs. the 98+? I know the 98+ runs smoother,
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There is a lot of misinformation out there, where did you find this out? I own both a 97 and a 98. I drive both of them regularly. There is no difference in the idle.
how about the 96-97 GTS engine Vs. the 98+? I know the 98+ runs smoother,
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There is a lot of misinformation out there, where did you find this out? I own both a 97 and a 98. I drive both of them regularly. There is no difference in the idle.
Supercharged Vipermad
Enthusiast
actually...I got it off this site. I may have read it wrong though, maybe it was 96-98, and then 99+? it was whichever year got the "creampuff" title.
dadsvpr
Enthusiast
the viperclub website marv s mentioned is awesome though a couple things are missing. i created another page to complement it with a few observations folded in, i updated tonight with a couple more things. it is about my 5th or 6th revision. hope this helps. see: http://viper.thomasser.org/viper
Jason
Jason
C O D Y
Enthusiast
Forged pistons 1996 to 1999.
Cast Pistons 2000 to 2002+ (Creampuff)
I wouldn't let the creampuff title fool you. I've seen several very strong creampuffs.
Cast Pistons 2000 to 2002+ (Creampuff)
I wouldn't let the creampuff title fool you. I've seen several very strong creampuffs.
GTSREDDOG
Enthusiast
Looks like a lot of people like the 98's so why dont you just buy mine?? 4280 miles, extenmded warranty till 2006 and looking for a new home...$58,500 Good luck in your search for whatever viper you buy!
SapphireGTS
Enthusiast
I think the 98s have like 580 HP from the factory due to the different cam. Rather than the 380 HP that the creampuffs have.
Supercharged Vipermad
Enthusiast
GTSREDDOG-Sorry, I will not be in the market for one until later this spring or early summer...but if yours is still available, I would DEFINATLY consider it.
Supercharged Vipermad
Enthusiast
Well, looking over the records, I think that a 98-99 would be the best year for me in the GTS. But, I really want ABS... is it possible to add it? I know it wont be cost affective... but has it been done before? I mean, I wont die or anything is I dont have it, but could it be done? Also, was there any interior changes between 99 ans 01?
kverges
Enthusiast
I have had a '98 and and now have an '01. Power was identical. I love the ABS and adding ABS to an older car is pretty much prohibitive. You also get 18" wheels with the '99-up cars. The new car is smoother and I miss the rough idle, but the '01 is definitely faster on track due to ABS nd more rear brake bias (new rear caliper is used on ABS-equipped cars). I will bet you can buy a new Viper cheap right now given the inventory dealers are carrying and I do prefer my '01 over my '98 overall.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Daniel Lesser:
...how about the 96-97 GTS engine Vs. the 98+? I know the 98+ runs smoother.....but how are they as far as response to upgrades, etc? is the amount of power the stock engine can handle increased or decreased in 98+? I also heard a rumor that 96-97 had weaker rods, but stronger pistons, and 98+ has weaker pistons but stronger rods... is this true or not? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Virtually ALL the assumptions above are false.
Except one.
The more aggressive cam and ECU of 96-97 yielded a few more HP, and a few more HP still under certain mods, when measured vs. 98-99 and again vs 2000+.
...how about the 96-97 GTS engine Vs. the 98+? I know the 98+ runs smoother.....but how are they as far as response to upgrades, etc? is the amount of power the stock engine can handle increased or decreased in 98+? I also heard a rumor that 96-97 had weaker rods, but stronger pistons, and 98+ has weaker pistons but stronger rods... is this true or not? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Virtually ALL the assumptions above are false.
Except one.
The more aggressive cam and ECU of 96-97 yielded a few more HP, and a few more HP still under certain mods, when measured vs. 98-99 and again vs 2000+.
Chuck 98 RT/10
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JonB - PartsRack:
The more aggressive cam and ECU of 96-97 yielded a few more HP, and a few more HP still under certain mods, when measured vs. 98-99 and again vs 2000+.
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Negligible Jon. This comes from an owner owning of both 98 and 97 simultaneously.
Besides, 4 or 5 hp difference can be measured between two identical model year cars. The 98 with the stronger wheels, alarm switch, etc. is the better Viper.
Color choice is the only reason for choosing pre-98.
The more aggressive cam and ECU of 96-97 yielded a few more HP, and a few more HP still under certain mods, when measured vs. 98-99 and again vs 2000+.
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Negligible Jon. This comes from an owner owning of both 98 and 97 simultaneously.
Besides, 4 or 5 hp difference can be measured between two identical model year cars. The 98 with the stronger wheels, alarm switch, etc. is the better Viper.
Color choice is the only reason for choosing pre-98.
