dave6666
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A-Rod...? We're through with that **** here in Texas 
And orders?!? For what? Copies of my Madonna baby oil and splitter shoot?
And orders?!? For what? Copies of my Madonna baby oil and splitter shoot?
Diffuser and splitter build pics
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Detlef
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Orders for the the aero package you are designing
dave6666
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I'll run the shop if someone else wants to run the business.
Sweet Ride
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dave6666
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While Sweet Ride readies my first pay check and prepares to pay the invoice for my new $150K workshop...
The next pic shows the filler panels that merge with the wheel wells, and a tab with hole that utilizes the lower fender lip screw to mount through.
Like this. Of course the other piece covers that tab.
With all of the pieces made I carefully taped it all back on the car so I could get a line drawn on the splitter precisely where the filler panel meets the splitter.
That line will be used to spot a series of small 90 deg brackets to hold the filler panels along the span of the splitter.
The next pic shows the filler panels that merge with the wheel wells, and a tab with hole that utilizes the lower fender lip screw to mount through.
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Like this. Of course the other piece covers that tab.
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With all of the pieces made I carefully taped it all back on the car so I could get a line drawn on the splitter precisely where the filler panel meets the splitter.
That line will be used to spot a series of small 90 deg brackets to hold the filler panels along the span of the splitter.
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Tom F&L GoR
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Dave, how about you mill a slot on that line and drop the bottom of the filler panel in it?
dave6666
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Fatboy 18
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Dave, Are you going to put some kind of protection between the top edge of the metal work where it meets the paintwork?
I would be slightly worried that any slight flex would sctrach paint! Ie: if you hit a bump in the road etc?
Also do you intend for this part to be colour matched to the car, with Red / white stripes?
This realy is a great thred you have here. Fantastic work, Im looking forward to seeing more pics
Mark
I would be slightly worried that any slight flex would sctrach paint! Ie: if you hit a bump in the road etc?
Also do you intend for this part to be colour matched to the car, with Red / white stripes?
This realy is a great thred you have here. Fantastic work, Im looking forward to seeing more pics
Mark
dave6666
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Dave, Are you going to put some kind of protection between the top edge of the metal work where it meets the paintwork?
I would be slightly worried that any slight flex would sctrach paint! Ie: if you hit a bump in the road etc?
Also do you intend for this part to be colour matched to the car, with Red / white stripes?
This realy is a great thred you have here. Fantastic work, Im looking forward to seeing more pics
Mark
I am contemplating rubber edging from McMaster Carr but have not made up my mind yet. It comes in all flavors, including small and thin for 0.032 sheet metal.
Once the parts are powder coated the abrasion will be minimal with movement though, as the powder creates a smooth balled edge as the powder migrates toward the edges when in the oven.
I plan on doing a little study on that before I coat everything though; how far it moves under aero load. I can push down on the splitter at the sides and move it about a 1/4" downward before it gets really difficult. Pretty much the rubber front end flexing. And also pretty much the only way it's coming off is if it takes the fascia with it
Anyway, I have plenty of options if after my study I conclude things move too much under the aero load.
Color?!? Satin black. Every bit of it. Decal on the sides by the wheel well? I'm the sticker King baby!
Tom F&L GoR
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Mill = fancy tool
Dave = simple tools
Simple: router.
Ratical2
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Mill = fancy tool
Dave = simple tools
Tom beat me to it with the router suggestion but this is as simple as it gets.
Dremel Tool router attachment:
Dremel Router Attachment
Works great!
It works well...although I destroyed my Dremel it's definately worth it if you have a steady hand.
dave6666
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OK guys. In your sidewalk the lines are called engineered stress cracks. It will break over time, and it will break there.
Let's apply that to Dave's splitter now. The engineered stress crack that is being suggested.
Discuss?
Let's apply that to Dave's splitter now. The engineered stress crack that is being suggested.
Discuss?
Tom F&L GoR
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I'd have to look back, but isn't your splitter about three inches thick? And you will be avoiding anti-poser 5/10 driveways, so I'd say you're safe.
BOTTLEFED
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I've never heard of any race cars having "engineered stress cracks" in their splitters
is that normal?
is that normal?
dave6666
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Tom... 1/2" thick thank you
B'Fed... Correct. You normally don't want to create a stress failure point. And it's a hand's down vote that Dave is normal right?
Yes?
Anyway, my sheet metal edge is straight enough that it will look good up against the splitter without being inset to it. And regardless, would still need the same bracketry to fix it in place.
B'Fed... Correct. You normally don't want to create a stress failure point. And it's a hand's down vote that Dave is normal right?
Yes?
Anyway, my sheet metal edge is straight enough that it will look good up against the splitter without being inset to it. And regardless, would still need the same bracketry to fix it in place.
steve911
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As a suggestion, I would add a piece of #3M clear paint shield onto the car facia and let the splitter rub against that. We use a similar product on the jets in my avatar to prevent chaffing against parts and it works great.
dave6666
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With all of the time I have invested in making the brackets to hold the filler panels, if I lived in China, I could have bought my own tool & die/stamping company to make these parts!
More scrap 0.080 5052 aluminum. 10-24 flat head screws & KEP nuts. Jigsaw blades, drill bits, adult beverages...
There will still be some more tweaking of these parts; 1 of 1 prototyping is some trial and error. Aside from that, they will be match drilled to the panels and then rivet nuts installed for machine screws.
More scrap 0.080 5052 aluminum. 10-24 flat head screws & KEP nuts. Jigsaw blades, drill bits, adult beverages...
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There will still be some more tweaking of these parts; 1 of 1 prototyping is some trial and error. Aside from that, they will be match drilled to the panels and then rivet nuts installed for machine screws.
BOTTLEFED
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holy f^%k Dave, that thing looks like swiss cheese!
I don't think you need a stress crack, the holes will allow it to crumble into pieces upon impact
this is getting to be many more parts and hardware than I had imagined
I don't think you need a stress crack, the holes will allow it to crumble into pieces upon impact
this is getting to be many more parts and hardware than I had imagined
dave6666
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To crumble upon impact first requires an impact... And no, even if I'd of milled the slot in, that 1/2" thick structural FRP panel would still be excessively strong. The Swiss holes? They take nothing away that is needed strength wise.
I certainly don't mind taking the time to make these parts, but for anyone that was thinking of less time or a more utilitarian design, then either skip the filler panels or rivet them to the fascia and be done with it in a hurry.
I'm going for sturdy, purdy, and not in a hurry.
And no, even if I'd of milled the slot in, that 1/2" thick structural FRP panel would still be excessively strong. The Swiss holes? They take nothing away that is needed strength wise.I certainly don't mind taking the time to make these parts, but for anyone that was thinking of less time or a more utilitarian design, then either skip the filler panels or rivet them to the fascia and be done with it in a hurry.
I'm going for sturdy, purdy, and not in a hurry.
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Fatboy 18
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They look like Snake TEETH to me 
Dave you should get an engineering Diploma for this stuff. Amazing!! How the hell do you get the time to do this
Dave you should get an engineering Diploma for this stuff. Amazing!! How the hell do you get the time to do this michaelnouri
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dave6666
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Very nice looking parts. Ever thought about a smooth Gen 2 look instead of the horizontal ribs?
Nadine UK GTS
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Oh My! Where have I been? (not here enough!!) I've been missing out on all the good stuff. Dave66669 you have UK-Chick approval on your GTS splitter work of art, YES... me is liking that lots. That is HOT!
Is "PS UP" markings a code for passenger side this way up, or simple...part is cut so lets get p*ssed up?
I made some splitters myself, but I would truley like one as good as yours is turning out. I made a diffuser some years ago, sheet ali, I had to put a small fold in the very end of the diffuser blades as I found they would vibrate at big speeds, this solved the issue, put strength into the blade like that! As you've shown me yours, I'll find some pics to show you mine!
I smoke tested mine, mother wouldn't let me have knitting wool!
Is "PS UP" markings a code for passenger side this way up, or simple...part is cut so lets get p*ssed up?
I made some splitters myself, but I would truley like one as good as yours is turning out. I made a diffuser some years ago, sheet ali, I had to put a small fold in the very end of the diffuser blades as I found they would vibrate at big speeds, this solved the issue, put strength into the blade like that! As you've shown me yours, I'll find some pics to show you mine!
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I smoke tested mine, mother wouldn't let me have knitting wool!
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dave6666
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Anyway, while Nadine gets those wheelwells detailed, Dave has got the splitter finished up and ready for road testing.
Had to shorten most of the cover panel mounts to ensure the rivet nuts and screws didn't hit the fascia. All done, all good.
I originally had the edge even with the wheel, but ordered wider wheels and made the splitter to fit the OE wheels. Full functionality would come with the wheel not being exposed. I refuse to start over for that...
Had to shorten most of the cover panel mounts to ensure the rivet nuts and screws didn't hit the fascia. All done, all good.
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I originally had the edge even with the wheel, but ordered wider wheels and made the splitter to fit the OE wheels. Full functionality would come with the wheel not being exposed. I refuse to start over for that...
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