cnunique
Enthusiast
I also have this problem. Do I need to notify someone to be put on a list to be contacted when a solution is found?
Flickering lights
- Thread starter kverges
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cstegall
Enthusiast
cnunique,
No list...just keep up with this thread and keep bumping it up. We will make sure that information is passed on.
Current status: PVO knows what is wrong and is working on the fix. A little more difficult than first thought.
CStegall
No list...just keep up with this thread and keep bumping it up. We will make sure that information is passed on.
Current status: PVO knows what is wrong and is working on the fix. A little more difficult than first thought.
CStegall
cstegall
Enthusiast
Lights went out completely again this evening!!!!
C'mon PVO. Get us the fix.
CStegall
C'mon PVO. Get us the fix.
CStegall
RC Viper
Enthusiast
Happened to my wife on the way home from the track yesterday.
Flickered SEVERAL times.
Not good.
Flickered SEVERAL times.
Not good.
LittleFish
Enthusiast
I gave a potential viper buyer a ride in my SRT on Friday. He asked me if I had the flickering light problem. I told him that I must be lucky because I sure haven't had a probelem......then I started thinking about how many time I had driven in the dark....maybe 3 or 4. Drove the car Sunday morning early. Went from low beam to highs and immediately it was lights out!!! Deer and **** everywhere and I have no lights!! Problem replicated each time I switched the lights. Problem didn't occur if I had the fog lights on. Has anyone else tried that? I can see the lawyers lining up after the first wreak.
cstegall
Enthusiast
More and more SRT's are coming down with this "virus" PVO. At the very least it would be great to get some feedback from the dealers on this board about possible fixes, etc. All I hear is that they know what is causing the problem and that a fix is being worked on. I am assuming that the fix is not "mechanical" as this type of work would be something that should be relatively easy to repair. The only other system in the car relative to the lights might be the computer system. Is this correct?
Be nice to hear something before I run into something because my lights fail!
CStegall
Be nice to hear something before I run into something because my lights fail!
CStegall
Viperfreak2
Enthusiast
How about a "do not drive at night" warning. Park your SRT-10's until we can figure out how to get you the $300 gift certificate and letter with legal rights signed away. This problem is far worse than the valves. IMHO
cstegall
Enthusiast
Viperfreak2,
Could not agree with you more. It is hard to believe that this would "lay" on the table as long as it has. Silence is NOT golden with this.
CStegall
Fred(DrivingSchool)Kinder
Enthusiast
Interesting Sat. no flickering Sunday flicker was back.
Heard a click, like a relay, with the flicker.
Heard a click, like a relay, with the flicker.
cstegall
Enthusiast
Fred...
That is strange. Mine seem to go off all the time now and it does not seem like a short...more like the signal is not being "channeled" correctly in the harness. Hopefully, it is not a short and is something that can be done via a software flash,etc.
That is strange. Mine seem to go off all the time now and it does not seem like a short...more like the signal is not being "channeled" correctly in the harness. Hopefully, it is not a short and is something that can be done via a software flash,etc.
DEVILDOG
VCA Member North TX
Why don't you guys tape a couple of flashlights on your front fenders and send pics to DC and tell them that is the way your SRT-10 goes out in public until the problem is fixed. 
Maybe they will work a little faster due to the negative public image of their "halo" car instead of (not)worring about somebody getting hurt! Also, has anyone checked to see if your tail lights go out too? Anyway, seriously hope this gets fixed for you guys/gals before someone gets killed.
Maybe they will work a little faster due to the negative public image of their "halo" car instead of (not)worring about somebody getting hurt! Also, has anyone checked to see if your tail lights go out too? Anyway, seriously hope this gets fixed for you guys/gals before someone gets killed. LittleFish
Enthusiast
I think I will go for the flashlights taped on the car (caddyshack). My car is never going out in the dark again. Explain that to the wife after buying the car without her 'approval'....
kverges
Enthusiast
I took mine to the dealer for the second time on this and can get the problem to repeat. Wiggling and twisting the stalk with the parking lights or headlights on and there is a flicker that can lead to lights going out. If you do this for very long, the parking lights, instrument lights, headlights all go out & stay out. I suspect the switch goes to a computer control (perhaps part of what keeps the headlights on for a while after engine shutdown) and the computer control "freezes" when it sees an intermittent connection (sort of like a comparator used to remove switch "bounce").
Now I am guessing here, but DC gets a third time try to fix the problem after this or I may just have to tell them they can have it back for now and I'll get another Viper when the beta testing program is over.
On a positive note, I had the valve recall done and am satisfied so far, with a noticeable bump in power
Now I am guessing here, but DC gets a third time try to fix the problem after this or I may just have to tell them they can have it back for now and I'll get another Viper when the beta testing program is over.
On a positive note, I had the valve recall done and am satisfied so far, with a noticeable bump in power
Hans Christian
Enthusiast
would this flickering be enough for a lemon act to be applied ?? just wondering - maybe that will get them off their chairs. Or do we need to see a serious accident before something happens ??
AJT
Enthusiast
Part Of Texas Lemon Law
) If the manufacturer, converter, or distributor is unable to conform the motor vehicle to an applicable express warranty by repairing or correcting any defect or condition which creates a serious safety hazard or substantially impairs the use or market value of the motor vehicle after a reasonable number of attempts, the manufacturer, converter, or distributor shall
(1) replace the motor vehicle with a comparable motor vehicle; or
(2) accept return of the vehicle from the owner and refund to the owner the full purchase price less a reasonable allowance for the owner's use of the vehicle and any other allowances or refunds payable to the owner. In this section, "impairment of market value" means a substantial loss in market value caused by a defect specific to the vehicle. In addition to replacing the vehicle or refunding the purchase price, the manufacturer, converter, or distributor shall reimburse the owner for reasonable incidental costs resulting from loss of use of the motor vehicle because of the nonconformity or defect.
Good Luck Guys
Andy
) If the manufacturer, converter, or distributor is unable to conform the motor vehicle to an applicable express warranty by repairing or correcting any defect or condition which creates a serious safety hazard or substantially impairs the use or market value of the motor vehicle after a reasonable number of attempts, the manufacturer, converter, or distributor shall
(1) replace the motor vehicle with a comparable motor vehicle; or
(2) accept return of the vehicle from the owner and refund to the owner the full purchase price less a reasonable allowance for the owner's use of the vehicle and any other allowances or refunds payable to the owner. In this section, "impairment of market value" means a substantial loss in market value caused by a defect specific to the vehicle. In addition to replacing the vehicle or refunding the purchase price, the manufacturer, converter, or distributor shall reimburse the owner for reasonable incidental costs resulting from loss of use of the motor vehicle because of the nonconformity or defect.
Good Luck Guys
Andy
kverges
Enthusiast
This is definitely a potential lemon law issue if it cannot be repaired. The $83,000 question is what's a "reasonable number of attempts." I plan to take the car in repeatedly and document the complaint in DC's system so that at least the dates and number of complaints and any service action that could (or could not) be taken is beyond dispute.
RC Viper
Enthusiast
Had the SRT out tonight and lights flickered once again.
It appears to be happen right after turning on the turn signals.
I really don't want to take the car back to the local Dodge dealer when
there appears to be a generic problem.
Is Dodge going to do something about this? Why can't at least get an official
statement about it? The valves were an inconvenience. This is dangerous!
It appears to be happen right after turning on the turn signals.
I really don't want to take the car back to the local Dodge dealer when
there appears to be a generic problem.
Is Dodge going to do something about this? Why can't at least get an official
statement about it? The valves were an inconvenience. This is dangerous!
cstegall
Enthusiast
Keith,
Sorry to say so(cause I do like the car)but I am with you 100% in your plan. I will begin to see of the dealership will act on the repair and if not than obviously something has to be done about the car. Man...what a bummer.
CStegall
Sorry to say so(cause I do like the car)but I am with you 100% in your plan. I will begin to see of the dealership will act on the repair and if not than obviously something has to be done about the car. Man...what a bummer.
CStegall
fixumm
Viper Owner
i am with ya on this light gig.Mine started out just a small flicker then when ever i used my turn thingie, now it happens when ever and more often just make sure you have your fog/driving lights on as mine stay on when this happens but i don't know about the tail lights? Sure makes going fast at night a rush
kverges
Enthusiast
Update: the dealer is replacing the multi-function switch on the steering column, so we shall see if that does the trick.
cstegall
Enthusiast
Bump
CStegall
CStegall
Keith, please keep us updated if this replacement fixed your problem. I've had my SRT since January and I havn't had any flickering light trouble. I live in a rural area and constantly go from low to high beams, no problem. I 'm curious as to how wide spread this problem is and if it could be a vender part defect (multi-function switch). Thanks.
Nsane1
Enthusiast
The switch is not the problem (had mine replaced). We had our monthly meeting, and our Zone tech lead mentioned it was a "flash" to the computer was needed. He is intending to use our group as a test bed.
So, I thought to myself "I had just had the computer replaced for another problem, and this had a software update, let's try it". I tried everything last night to get the flickering to happen, playing with the switch, etc. While one night is 100% proof, this sounds like the fix.
Also with this fix, I tried like crazy to get the "bog" to happen, I couldn't. Again, this was 1 days use.
So, I thought to myself "I had just had the computer replaced for another problem, and this had a software update, let's try it". I tried everything last night to get the flickering to happen, playing with the switch, etc. While one night is 100% proof, this sounds like the fix.
Also with this fix, I tried like crazy to get the "bog" to happen, I couldn't. Again, this was 1 days use.
Twosnakes
Enthusiast
So my Wife and I are out for an SRT drive last night and all the lights decide to flicker and go out for +or- 5 sec. This happened deep into a sharp curve at 10:30 PM. Hart rate went from 78 to 100 for both of us. This light condition repeated itself two more times in the twenty mile drive home.
From this forum, I gather Dodge's amswer is "Only opperate this Vehicle during Daylight hours!"
Un f%#&^ beleiveable............
$85K down the drain , Hello I'm back to Porsche for a new 911.
I still like my 97 GTS and thanks to Sean Roe its FUN !!
cstegall
Enthusiast
Bump....again.
CStegall
CStegall
Viperfreak2
Enthusiast
Question: what state does the lemon law apply to: the state you live in (South Carolina), or the state you bought the car from (Nebraska) ??? AND who would 'buy' the car back if it came to that? My local dealer (no way) or the selling dealer? Wouldn't the Kneebraskee guys want a chance to fix it before sending the trailer?
Y2K5SRT
Enthusiast
I believe with the lemon laws of most states the manufacturer eats it - not the dealer. Still, the dealer wants to get it fixed because I imagine the manufacturer "dings" them the next time around for whatever profits were made on the sale of that car originally.
I am curious as to whether this problem is confined to a certain "run" of cars. We know that the valve problem was restricted to approximately 200 cars built from around February to March (note: If you haven't received a recall notice on that then you probably aren't affected). The fuel pump wiring recall affected exactly 69 cars that were among the first to be built. And I note that a couple guys (including myself) that got January deliveries have never had a problem. Could this be another supplier issue like the valves?
I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if DC has the problem narrowed down and is now trying to determine which cars were affected. Still, I hope this is resolved VERY soon for the safety's sake of the affected owners and the image nightmare that continues to perpetuate about the SRT. DC, if you want to sell a bunch of these this is not how you do it...
I am curious as to whether this problem is confined to a certain "run" of cars. We know that the valve problem was restricted to approximately 200 cars built from around February to March (note: If you haven't received a recall notice on that then you probably aren't affected). The fuel pump wiring recall affected exactly 69 cars that were among the first to be built. And I note that a couple guys (including myself) that got January deliveries have never had a problem. Could this be another supplier issue like the valves?
I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if DC has the problem narrowed down and is now trying to determine which cars were affected. Still, I hope this is resolved VERY soon for the safety's sake of the affected owners and the image nightmare that continues to perpetuate about the SRT. DC, if you want to sell a bunch of these this is not how you do it...
cstegall
Enthusiast
Well thought out and said Chris. Thanks.
Now DC...pay attention to this man. If you continue to react to problems as you seem to be doing you WILL lose the war even if you win the battle.
Post answers DC. Post solutions. Post questions to the owners. Let us help you fix our problems. We are really only bad guys when you IGNORE us.
Please get with the program before I give my SRT to my lawyer for resolution.
Thanks,
CStegall
Now DC...pay attention to this man. If you continue to react to problems as you seem to be doing you WILL lose the war even if you win the battle.
Post answers DC. Post solutions. Post questions to the owners. Let us help you fix our problems. We are really only bad guys when you IGNORE us.
Please get with the program before I give my SRT to my lawyer for resolution.
Thanks,
CStegall
Skip White
Enthusiast
Never had the problem yet. I'm going to hard wire in my fog lamps to come on when the ignition is on, plus I will have an overide switch to shut them of if I want. I will go around the headlight switch all together, a relay will be needed of course. I like day-time running lights anyway, they are safer and seem to make the car look better while on. If youre lights did go out on ya, you would have something up front to see with, and be seen. The best places to have this done is at stereo/alarm shop. They are so good at this kind of stuff. They would not charge much to do it, since it's such a simple job. The aux. swith would work out nice right under the steering colum. Fog lights are better than nothing.
Skip White
Skip White
cstegall
Enthusiast
Good plan Skip. I may check into your idea as well. Thanks.
Clark
Clark
