How would my GTS do against an SRT?

[Rizzo]

I'm just wondering how my 98 GTS would fair in a race against a stock 03 to 06 SRT with the extra 50 hp. I have the k/n's, smooth tubes, borla exhaust with no cats. If it was a 1/4 mile drag or a top speed run how would I run? Just curious.

 

[plumcrazy]

ive run with a few and haven't seen much if any difference but i guess it depends on the drivers.

 

[jay01m]

I'd say with a 50-hp difference, they would walk you to maybe 2-lengths in a 1/4 mile run, depends also on the TQ difference through the gears, not sure what that difference is. However, because you have an all forged motor, slap a cool 300-shot of nitrous on there, and you'll get a nice view of the SRT's front end in your rear view

 

[Viper Wizard]

The cup holders slow down the SRT's!

 

[mad0953]

I hear ya Chuck. I'm going to stay with my GTS and continue to put my latte between my legs when I race............keeps the boys warm.

 

[2002_Viper_GTS_ACR]

Since I've owned both, and dragged both, I can give you a little insight.

The srt-10s supposedly pull better times out of the box, but some of the records for fastest 1/4 mile times for stock vipers belong to gen 2's.

I think for drag racing, I actually prefered my gen 2, as the 18 inch rims vs the 19 inch rims (that stock are RUN-FATS) were easier to get a good bite out of. They effectively have a lower gear ratio (gen2) then the gen3s as the switch to 19's makes a difference on over all ratio between transmission/differential and the tire. Then the harder more difficult run craps (which dropping pressure does little good), makes a good aggressive launch a little more difficult then dropping a few pounds in the gen2's stock non-run flats and launching hard.

I also notice I got more wheel hop with the Gen3's then gen2's from hard launches.

Gen 3's should/do trap a higher mile an hour. So I think what you get is relatively close times, but the gen 3's get more mph and the gen2's get better 60 foot times. I think a gen3 with 18 inch rims and non run craps would make up the effective gain the gen2 gets, but its just a guess and the factory will never go backwards.

Transmissions are effectively the same, as the only difference is a solid shaft in 5/6 gear, instead of a 2 part shaft. So no gain there.

Differential is a bit different, and I prefer the gen2 diff over the gen3s. That pump up crap the gen3 does is anoying. The gen2 always seems to have posi ready on the fly.

All and all, I think a gen2 is easier to drag race and look like a champ. A Gen3 with its crappy tires, and questionalble differential prove to be a bit of a challenge. My best 60 foot time is still with a gen2. something like a 1.79 on oem street tires. Gen 3, I got a 1.89 best.

Stock for stock, gen 2 vs gen 3. It will come down to a drivers race. The gen 3 does not have that clear of an advantage. And probably if you do just a 1/8th mile track instead of a 1/4 mile, the gen2 will win more times then not.

My 2 cents.

Jon

Road course racing, FORGET about it, gen 3 all the way.

 

[Kai SRT10]

I have a Gen III, and went up against a number of Gen II cars back when my car was stock. I've seen other Gen III owners running their cars against Gen II cars as well. Bone stock, I agree with those who have already posted that say that it is very close. The Gen III has a theoretical advantage due to a bit more power, but I do agree that the Gen II cars seem to get off the line a bit quicker. It's going to come down to the driver. I know that at the event that I went to, a lot of Gen III drivers assumed that they would automatically be faster than the Gen II cars because of the greater power. This didn't prove to be the case, however, and the two generations seemed very evenly matched.

 

[Batboy]

View this and judge for yourself. First one is me in my GTS the first time I ever ran a 1/4 mile. The second one is an almost stock SRTC. It's the same track on the same day at near the same time. Different drivers though. The third one is another stock (as far as I know) SRT, but again a different driver. My mods are below. Judge for yourself but in my opinion the run flats dramatically effect the GenIII's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bb5SSRJTeU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kof18idERPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlti6LaB4NU

 

[PAvenomRT/10]

I think overall the SRT would win more often than not based on my admittedly limited experience. I have raced several stock SRTs and although getting a slight jump on them out of the box most of the time, I still end up a 1-1.5 car lengths behind.
PAvenom
2000RT/10

 

[PatentLaw]

I think that the driver is the limiting factor 95 percent of the time.

 

[Zan186]

Stock vs Stock I would say the SRT will be faster due to having a little bit more horsepower under the hood. However once you do basic mod's like K&N, headers and Cat back it is dead even.

 

[VENOMAHOLIC]

I agree with previous posts that the difference is in the wheels and tires. The stock run flats are heavier. Combine that with the heavier 19 inch rims and the gear ratios are also effected. Put 18 inch drag radials and the Gen III should be able to use the 50 extra hp to win.

Then again, there is just something about the 2000 RT/10 that makes it the fastest stock Viper to date.

 

[jay01m]

Anytime you have a better 60-ft time, you're going to have a lower trap speed in the 1/4. I always have trouble comprehending that, but its true, so it makes sense the Gen IIIs trap faster than Gen IIs, the Gen IIs have better 60 times with more side wall.

 

[pugads651]

the gen 2 definitley takes it in the looks department.

 

[SylvanSRT]

in road racing it isn't even close the Gen 3 brakes and suspension set up will kill gen 2 stock v. stock. people keep bashing the runflats that must be a drag racing thing, on a road course they seem pretty good to me(especially since there are not any track tires available in stock sizes). The suspension has been tuned around their handling abilty very well, and i have been told that going to non-run flats will negatively affect the handling.

btw as mentioned above most of the fastest 1/4 mile times in a stock Viper have been in a Gen 2, and an RT-10 at that

 

[0260in3]

in road racing it isn't even close the Gen 3 brakes and suspension set up will kill gen 2 stock v. stock.

I agee. Better brakes and suspension along with more hp put the Gen III in a higher class at Viper Days. There's no way my stock Gen II could compete with them (assuming same driver skill of course).

 

[mike & juli]

The cup holders slow down the SRT's!

As in '''''plural'''''???? DANG, where IS that other cup holder then??!!! ~juli~

 

[IEATVETS]

I hear ya Chuck. I'm going to stay with my GTS and continue to put my latte between my legs when I race............keeps the boys warm.

Now that is funny, I don't care who you are!!

 

[Bob K]

At VOI in Vegas I ran my '96 GTS (467 rwhp & 503 rwtorq) against 3 different SRT/10's on the drag strip. I don't know the experience of the drivers or the mods to their cars but I beat all of them by several car lengths and I am not a very good drag racer. I have never dragged my SRTC to make a comparison.

Bob K

 

[SylvanSRT]

just guessing but at 467 rwhp your car is not 100% stock. and if it is WOW. On a road course it would be a totally different story, any Gen 2 vs. Gen 3 would not stand much of a chance

 

[JUCD VPR]

If your a good driver, then you'll win since you already have smooth tubes & exhaust, it'll make up for the extra 50Hp the Gen 3 has and your 60 foot times will put you out front..........UNLESS you drive like Batboy ahahahahahha!