I am employed, educated, and have been trying to build credit. now saving. no offense at the attack, dont take words personal. reason I asked about the gen 2 rt for that much is because i missed one going for 24500. whats the matter with asking??? a gen 1 seems to be much more realistic. pathetic? hell no, a bit desperate i can honestly say. just want to try my hand at snatching a snake before resorting to the common car. gen 1 it is. sorry for the small caps, my cell wont allow me to use the shift function after the first letter. and i hate civics and all other hondas, toyotas ect. rice is for eating, not driving. Harsh or not, the way I see it, i have no choice but to take whatever anyone here throws at me, being that you all are the ones with the vipers and I am not. any leads on gen 1's?? I'll hit autotrader and cars again when I get a chance. haven't checked craigs list out yet.