Power Shift and Bang!
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ILLSMOQ
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I've killed the transmission twice power shifting form 2nd to 3rd.
05 and newer have stronger internals than the older cars.
do you get wheel hop?
05 and newer have stronger internals than the older cars.
do you get wheel hop?
Phoenix SRT
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Yes, and it was so loud that I thought something exploded. I'm not sure what you mean by "power shift," though. My incident happened when, under maximum acceleration, I did a normal 2 - 3 shift (full throttle, lift/clutch in, change gears, let clutch out/full throttle). When I let the clutch out and simultaneously went back to WOT there was a huge BANG!
I looked in my mirror expecting to see a trail of parts and smoke behind the car and wondering why what ever blew up didn't cause the car to spin. Fortunately, there was none of that and the car was fine. It was so bad that I took the car to a Viper tech to check it out. The tech found nothing amiss and it hasn't happened since.
BTW, my car is a 2003.
I looked in my mirror expecting to see a trail of parts and smoke behind the car and wondering why what ever blew up didn't cause the car to spin. Fortunately, there was none of that and the car was fine. It was so bad that I took the car to a Viper tech to check it out. The tech found nothing amiss and it hasn't happened since.
BTW, my car is a 2003.
ILLSMOQ
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wheel hop will kill parts
ILLSMOQ
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don't know about a large crazy bang being normal. With violent wheel hop you may get some kind of banging noises...don't ride it out.
Canyon707
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run flats = wheel hop. That is unless your drive it normally.
I've been reading other postings. Sounds like many have had this same "bang" noise, from 99 to 06 models. A couple of posting suggested that we check the 4 bolts connecting the differential to the body. May be loose. Something to keep in mind.
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Fast Viper
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maybe motor/tranny mounts are broken?
I had bad wheel hop problem with my 2006 and run flats. Got Pirelle tires and had less wheel hop but still a lot of spinning. Got the 19" Hoosier R6 for the rear and now no wheel hop and only slight amount of spinning in first gear under wot.
dave6666
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In my GTS I've got some wheel hop with Pilot Sports. Checked all the diff and rear suspension mounts and everything good. Put in Dave's solid tranny mount. Plan on doing engine mounts sometime.
But never a big bang. That sounds like a problem.
But never a big bang. That sounds like a problem.
AviP
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I had this happen on my 97 GTS while I was moving from a stop. And I wasn't even stepping on it hard. It only happened a couple of times in my first 2 years or so of ownership. Never since, maybe I mellowed down.
The consensus at that time was differential mounts but nothing was proved.
The consensus at that time was differential mounts but nothing was proved.
ViperJay
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i just experienced wheel hop for the first time now that its getting colder. scared me at first. as it hopped it was multiple bangs. did you have one bang or several till you got off the gas? its scary as 2 or 3 guys in this club have totaled their vipers over the last 3 weeks due to losing control while wheel hopping....
dave6666
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Wow. Banging would seem like it would have to be from a Part A hitting a Part B. I get chirping but that is it.
Paging the Wizard... Surely he's replaced some Part A or B's before. That is usually a pretty good indicator of what is being pounded; the part you are replacing.
Paging the Wizard... Surely he's replaced some Part A or B's before. That is usually a pretty good indicator of what is being pounded; the part you are replacing.
dave6666
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Great point. I did once in second and I needed new underwear after that. It was a bang for sure. The engine noise...
But I was not wheel hopping, just not paying attention.
AviP
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The wheel hop banging is different from the differential mount banging (or whatever it is?). The wheel hop banging is a series of thuds as the suspension tries to keep the tires to the ground. The differential banging is a single loud clang.
Burntrubber
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DO you have an upgraded clutch? If you have a clutch the grips hard and the tires are warm you will get the bang noise. My friends Vette would do it all the time when I would full throttle power shift. If you hear any in car videos of power shifting you normally here this noise, it's just part of the fun.
dave6666
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DO you have an upgraded clutch? If you have a clutch the grips hard and the tires are warm you will get the bang noise. My friends Vette would do it all the time when I would full throttle power shift. If you hear any in car videos of power shifting you normally here this noise, it's just part of the fun.
I'd like an experienced Viper mechanic to say that's acceptable - the bang - before I find wheel hopping to be "part of the fun."
VIPER GTSR 91
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Why power shift anyway? Be smooth. These things are not bullet proof.
dave6666
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Why power shift anyway? Be smooth. These things are not bullet proof.
They're still making new replacement Vipers...
VIPER GTSR 91
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Not for long though!!!They're still making new replacement Vipers...
dave6666
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Not for long though!!!
Yeah, I need to get my '08 FE on the books...
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I'm not sure how all the talk about wheel hop got in here. It's not wheel hop, at least in my case.
And it apparently has nothing to do with power shifting. While I was accelerating hard, I used the clutch, lifted between gears, etc.
As for loose bolts, that's probably not it. A pretty well known Viper tech checked the car out after the incident and found nothing. Also, I put several thousand miles on the car since the big bang and it never happened again...loose stuff would do nothing but get more loose and the problem should have become worse if it was caused by something loose.
And it apparently has nothing to do with power shifting. While I was accelerating hard, I used the clutch, lifted between gears, etc.
As for loose bolts, that's probably not it. A pretty well known Viper tech checked the car out after the incident and found nothing. Also, I put several thousand miles on the car since the big bang and it never happened again...loose stuff would do nothing but get more loose and the problem should have become worse if it was caused by something loose.
DEKE01
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I've expereinced the same problem. The first time I heard that loud bang was on a back country road when I accidentally got slightly airborne. I was on my way to the track and thought that my day was over. Like you, I expected to see car parts littering the road. But I couldn't tell anything was wrong other than the memory of that bang, and my hard drivving day at the track went just fine.
The second time it happened was under hard excelleration from a light. I've driven it a couple of hundred miles since then without incident.
The second time it happened was under hard excelleration from a light. I've driven it a couple of hundred miles since then without incident.
Badazzv8
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I had the bang sound too, and took it to Woodhouse, and they couldn't duplicate it either. I haven't heard it since then either. When I heard it, I was like OFMG, what just happened.
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