Repost? Another 08 (SSG) bites the dust before leaving dealer.

[PhoenixGTS]

Supposedly owned by the owner of a Chevrolet dealer (sounds very unlikely). Anyone know the real story?

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[big-n-italian]

anyone know where i can buy a new keyboard cheap? i just threw up on mine.

 

[usaf0016]

Almost looks like it was literally being driven off the lot out of that showroom there. what an emberassment. Big, I think wal-mart has them, and they should have protectors you can put on just in case you have to see something so sickening ever again

 

[wallbanger]

What is it with the green ones..there was one venom one...maybe the owner was the guy in that last pic trying to hide his face

 

[voi9]

Seems like alot of the 08's are being wrecked within the first few days,( if not minutes) of ownership. Was this the same scenario when the 06's first came out? I know there is a 90 HP increase, but what's the difference once your spinning tires and fishtailing. Especially being that the 06's had runflats.

 

[musicncars]

WOW----i call dibs on the nav unit.....if it has one.

 

[Coloviper]

Crazy! Looking at EBAY as well, there are a ton of Salvage Vipers on there as well. An abnormally high number of them. I am glad I was able to buy mine new with no stories.

That must be some strong tree as it just nicked the bark. Must of had the damage in the street. Ripped the front of that viper like a tin can.

 

[dragon rider]

I was thinking the same thing wallbanger. It's odd that so many of the SSG ones are being wrecked. That color viper's value is increasing by the day.

 

[Flash1034]

Great! The value of my SSG and Black Coupe just went up!

Flash

 

[Viper X]

Funny thing is that while talking with Skip Thomas at Viper Days in CA - Feb this year, just after he got a ride in a new 2008, he mentioned he thought that the new 2008's would be the most wrecked Viper of all time ..... guess he's right.

Our local club is putting on a car control clinic this fall at El Toro MCAS.

I hope some of our club members can attend.

Too late for this guy!

 

[rcl4668]

I entered my 2008 Viper in a car control school a few weeks ago and while I did not spin my instructor spun the car the first lap out. Bottom line is that even for experienced, skilled drivers (the instructor has a new 2008 Z06 and a Factory Five Cobra replicar) this car is, as one of the other instructors described it, "a handful."

I highly recommend attending a car control clinic before driving the 2008 in an -- ahem -- spirited fashion. At 8/10ths, the car feels almost docile but once you get into 9/10s and 10/10ths driving the performance will take your breath away.

/Rich

 

[musicncars]

heres a question......what can you do in such a short amount of space that will cause you to lose control and destroy your car? it seems impossible. by the way, by my numbers. 1% of SSG's have been destroyed. (if they make 300 of them) 2 coupes, 1 vert, i believe. hopefully no one has been hurt as a result. also, wasnt there 2 venom reds and a black that have wrecked as well? does anyone know?

 

[Bobpantax]

Look at the amount and position of the bark off the tree. Then look at the rim damage on the inside of the driver's side front rim. It appears that the car hit the curb and then hit the tree. The right wheel cleared the curb. The left wheel caught a bit and the car spun around to its resting position seen in the photo. I would guess that it was approaching from the right on the same street where the sand is covering engine fluids that have leaked on the road. My other theory is that the car was approaching from the right. It went into a flat spin with the rear kicking to the right ( counterclockwise). As the rear went about 190 degrees around the left front rim hit the curb first while the car kept spinning counterclockwise. Since it kept spinning and moving forward, it hit the tree and briefly continued to spin until it came to rest. Of the two theories, I think the second scenario is most probably what happened since the damage underneath the front indicates possible prior contacts from the curb before this part of the curb and since the damage is across the entire lower front of the vehicle it clearly impacted the curb at speed. I would further guess that the accident occurred in first gear.

Sherlock Bob

 

[TAXIMAN1]

WOW.... NOT a repost.. Just another SSG being wrecked.. I can think of 3 SSG cars, and one Red one. Right off the top of my head. Being wrecked with "delivery" miles.. Whats the deal??

If you look at pic number 2. You'll see there is a gray post thats bent, with what appears to be one of those prefab concrete cylinders. This car DEFINATELY made at least one prior contact before hitting the tree.. What are these guys doing??

 

[Bobpantax]

What are they doing? It's highly probable that in this case the driver did not let the tires warm up, revved the engine to about 2500 or so and popped the clutch while simultaneously pushing the gas pedal to the floor. The ass then suddenly kicked out to the right and he lost control. This scenario or close variations of it have been the subject of many posts over the years. The most important warning to an inexperienced Viper driver should be heat up the tires before you do anything. The second warning should be to ease/roll into the pedal at launch. With stock tires, I find the most efficient launch technique to be to bring the rpm's up to about 1500 RPM and then release the clutch and roll into the gas pedal. Bringing the RPMs up and then slamming the gas pedal to the floor will buy wheel spin and/or wheel hop and/or a flat spin depending on the condition of the tires and the driving surface.

 

[Burntrubber]

wow...I thought in ten year I could prolly save up enough to buy an 08, but it looks like there may be none let.

 

[SSG CHIC]

This may be a really dumb question but here goes:

Are all of these accidents because of driver error or could the computer problem possibly be causing this?

I can certainly see how one of these bad boys can kick you in the rear but I can't help but wonder if the problem that some of these cars are having could cause an accident. Any ideas?

 

[musicncars]

wow...I thought in ten year I could prolly save up enough to buy an 08, but it looks like there may be none let.

mine may be.......im probably not going to drive it much after seeing scenes like this one.

 

[ViperTony]

It's sad and a shame to see these get wrecked like this. What is going on???

 

[PhoenixGTS]

This may be a really dumb question but here goes:

Are all of these accidents because of driver error or could the computer problem possibly be causing this?

I can certainly see how one of these bad boys can kick you in the rear but I can't help but wonder if the problem that some of these cars are having could cause an accident. Any ideas?

Anyone remember the episode of Unique Whips on Speed where the huge guy brought his Gen III in to have the seat bolster cut off the car so he could fit? When he picked it up he drove about 200 yards and wrecked it in a power spin - and that was with 100 hp less! Gotta respect the a$$ end coming around. No computer glitch there.

 

[musicncars]

are there more pictures of this? where did you find them?

 

[PhoenixGTS]

are there more pictures of this? where did you find them?

Pics are hosted on markvii.org so that would be the only clue I have. I grabbed them from AudiWorld.com but the poster left no clues other than the links.

 

[Kenneth Krieger]

With my car (05 Comm. Edition),Paxtonized, 3:55's, Eibach's, etc........I have a great deal of respect for the rear wheel torque of my car! The "new" drivers of the 08's (or even the 510hp cars), have NO respect for the torque. As one Viper officianado in the know said to me recently, "the 08's are very TAIL HAPPY with all the torque that people don't realize will jump up and bite them. They should all be required to go to a driving school before getting behind the wheel in this car!" I think that pretty much says it all.

 

[Viperfreak2]

Most people mistakenly think a car (any car) will go straight ahead when spinning the tires.

Not in a Viper.

 

[Coloviper]

I would say that the majority of the problem is people who push down on the brake and end up pushing the brake and gas pedal at the same time because they are so close. Having driven many hi-po cars over the years, this was the only aspect of driving my Viper that I had to really re-learn how to drive. It is second nature now, but the first few times in the car, it was a little scary a few moments and I was not even pushing it as I was breaking the car in. Of course nothing happened because I took the car into the back country where not many people drive.

Also anyone who starts into a turn with the car and then holds the gas pedal to the floor is just asking for it. Save the majority of that until the car is somewhat pointing straight. Anyone with 1/2 a brain can start to feel the ass break loose and let off. Instead, so many inexperienced people (like the idoits from out of town in Colorado that hold the gas pedal to the floor on ice and wait until the tires catch) they hold it to the floor, then wait for the tires to grab, all while riding a marry-go-round into a tree or pole.

Cold tires, warm tires, run flats! They all can not make up for inexperience. Maybe Dodge should have a software key programmed in on these cars that cuts the power to 300 hp for the first 1000 miles and let these people learn how to drive. Second they should sell the car with Piloti shoes or do something a bit different with the pedals. Sure they move forward and backward, but maybe they need to move side to side too to better position for people's feet and driving style.

Just my two sense! BTW There a quite a few Enzos that have bitten the dust too. You can build the most perfect car you can but the unknown factor is human.

 

[Bobpantax]

This may be a really dumb question but here goes:

Are all of these accidents because of driver error or could the computer problem possibly be causing this?

I can certainly see how one of these bad boys can kick you in the rear but I can't help but wonder if the problem that some of these cars are having could cause an accident. Any ideas?

The only design defect visible in these incidents is in the brains of the respective drivers. The common defect appears to be poor impulse control within the context of poor driving skills. The Viper is a streetable race car not a raceable street car. It is not a car for fools. However, one of the side effects of a free society is that fools also get to drive Vipers.

 

[Flying Viper]

Just another SSG being wrecked.. I can think of 3 SSG cars, and one Red one. Right off the top of my head. Being wrecked with "delivery" miles.. Whats the deal??


The deal is, the car needs electronics.
Too many Posts with the same story.

 

[VIPER R]

Narrow shoes, one of the best additions to a Viper.

 

[thebigsnake]

Maybe they should come with warnings, like on cigarette packs.
Guys who've only driven "traditional" sporty cars and used to pushing the limits, think it's the same with a Viper.
All first time owners of these things get an initial humbling surprise, and if car and driver survive that, all is well.

 

[S-JC]

Man, that is sad. All the money and time that went into creating that fine automobile and then it's just a crushed heap in seconds.