SRT-10 vs Fort GT in Motor Trend!

[ViperJohn]

Just got the new Motor Trend today. The SRT-10 beat the GT in quarter mile and 60 to 0 breaking. My interpretation of the article's tone is that they were surprised the SRT-10 beat the GT in these categories. The SRT did loose in the slalom and 0 to 60. I think their surprise is evident in the way the article was written and the fact that they did not post the usual table of figures. You have to extract the performance numbers in the article.

If Dodge makes an SRT Coupe things should get quite interesting!

For once, I was refreshed to read an article that wasn't so biased.

 

[garolittle]

The truth always comes out in the end. Just wait until the SRT-10s have 10-20K miles on the gauge. The extra horsepower will make even the most expensive Italian cars look slow.

 

[MaxedGTS]

good info but what is the weight of the GT ford?

 

[MaxedGTS]

The truth always comes out in the end. Just wait until the SRT-10s have 10-20K miles on the gauge. The extra horsepower will make even the most expensive Italian cars look slow.

hmmm.... my SRT does feel a little faster since i bought it, more miles seem to help

 

[DEVILDOG]

If the Ford GT is anything like my new (850 miles) daily driver SVT 10TH ANNIV. COBRA COUPE it will prove to be a piece of $HIT. The reason the SRT beat it in 60-0 braking is that the GT engine probably stalled on deceleration and lost the power brakes like the COBRA does. There are many other problems with the COBRA as documented with many owners on the SVTPERFORMANCE Board. I will probably lemon law my COBRA and get another VIPER GTS and keep it stock as a daily driver. I would never get a Ford GT based on my COBRA experience. The Ford SVT hotline is worthless and they are not fixing the COBRA problems. The SVT dealers don't know crap either. My VIPER experience has been excellent compared to the COBRA. My advice is get an SRT add $65K in mods to equal the Ford GT price and blow the doors off of it and anything else on the road or get the new baby Lambo V10 if you want exclusivity. The Found On Road Dead GT will prove to be a way overpriced pain in the a$$ POS.

 

[Frank 03SRT]

So much for reducing the Viper to worm sweat, Mr. Coletti.

 

[sachin]

what were the numbers??

 

[Steve Miehe]

Devildog:

Why don't you tell us how you really feel? lol!

 

[garolittle]

If the Ford GT is anything like my new (850 miles) daily driver SVT 10TH ANNIV. COBRA COUPE it will prove to be a piece of $HIT. The reason the SRT beat it in 60-0 braking is that the GT engine probably stalled on deceleration and lost the power brakes like the COBRA does. There are many other problems with the COBRA as documented with many owners on the SVTPERFORMANCE Board. I will probably lemon law my COBRA and get another VIPER GTS and keep it stock as a daily driver. I would never get a Ford GT based on my COBRA experience. The Ford SVT hotline is worthless and they are not fixing the COBRA problems. The SVT dealers don't know crap either. My VIPER experience has been excellent compared to the COBRA. My advice is get an SRT add $65K in mods to equal the Ford GT price and blow the doors off of it and anything else on the road or get the new baby Lambo V10 if you want exclusivity. The Found On Road Dead GT will prove to be a way overpriced pain in the a$$ POS.

You should have installed the Viperair system on your Cobra. That would have fixed all of your problems.

 

[Dave T (BADVENM)]

I too had an '03 Cobra but it had under 500 miles before I traded up to my bigger snake. No problems to speak of while I had it. I loved the car and those with the Kenne Bell system make it a worthy opponent to those unknowing whats under the hood. Thats the one thing I really liked about it, its unassuming but could really bite ya. If I could only afford 8-10 psi for big brother snake.

Any

 

[BadVenm]

Man you guys are tough on a car that no one in the "real world" has driven yet. I'm expecting these GT's to be quite the car.

I have one on order, a contract and deposit in place. The power numbers and looks will provide quite a car. The 03 Cobra was found to be under rated on it's HP by a large margin. I am assuming the GT is also under rated at 500 HP, but won't know for sure until I get one on a chassis dyno.

I am not going to give up my GTS by any means! I love it and hope to keep my Blue/White one forever!

I've had a vette, many 'stangs, etc... But I think the looks of the GT rival the exotic, unique looks of my Vipers. I would say equally exotic looking cars.

But.... For one of the same reasons I love the Viper over the vette, other than the pure perfomance advantages....One of ours is made for every 1,000 or is it more like 5,000 of the vette's... I'm being told there will only be 2,003 (Ford 100th anniv) of the Ford GT's made, is the same reason I'm so excited about these GT's. But if I remember correctly DC said Dodge would only make a few thousand Vipers then stop production and here we are 11 years later still making them.

Is the GT worth the extra $50K or $60K???? Most likley not in a pound for pound performance line up. Is it worth the extra $$$ if I get one, and then only 2,003 of them are actually made......HELL YES!!!

A friend of mine a Ford dealer, says if the Ford GT is a hit, Ford will keep making them, but in a very limited number, (less than the Viper) so who knows how many will ever really get made.

Never-the-less, I am hoping mine makes it to me (may not be high enough on the waiting list to actually get one if only 2,003 are made), but, I am looking forward to getting it, driving it, and parking it right next to my original owner 97 Viper GTS, which will ALWAYS be the crown jewel in my car collection no matter what else is in the garage as well!!

 

[DEVILDOG]

The 03 Cobra was found to be under rated on it's HP by a large margin. I am assuming the GT is also under rated at 500 HP, but won't know for sure until I get one on a chassis dyno.

The reason the '03 Cobra was under rated is because they had to factor in the 0(zero) HP when the car is STALLED and you expect it to be running. Hopefully, you haven't coasted into an intersection since you have lost your power brakes and ended up getting T-boned and killed as has one Cobra owner to date as reported on the SVTPERFORMANCE Board. Ford may end up not having any $$$s to build a GT or any other POS car after dealing with all the legal cases arising from the STALL. JOHN COLETTI *****!!!

 

[Viperfreak2]

I think their surprise is evident in the way the article was written and the fact that they did not post the usual table of figures. You have to extract the performance numbers in the article.
For once, I was refreshed to read an article that wasn't so biased.

The article I read did have the numbers breakdown on the last page. The SRT lost the race all the way up to the 1/4 mile. TALK ABOUT CLOSE! 11.77 for the SRT-10 and 11.78 for the GT! Based on these numbers, the SRT is making more horses. The weights listed are almost identical. The GT has the advantage of the engine over the wheels, that's why the 0-60 is much better, but the VIPER catches it! The only way to do this is HP. The GT also has a better trap speed, 123.XX to 124.XX but I think that would swing the other way in the 1/2 mile or standing mile. Like others have said, a Viper coupe will be awesome.

 

[GR8_ASP]

They also state the SRT makes it to 60 in first. Mine does not. What gives? Higher red line/fuel shut-off for the mags?

Another thing I cannot understand. That is how Car and Driver gets 4-5 mph more than Motor Trend. Was the CD car fixed?

 

[Snakester]

I do think that the C&D car was tweaked for the test.
0-60 in 3.3 and the 1/4 mile in 11.6@ 128MPH, whereas the Road & Track test did 0-60 in 3.8 and the 1/4 mile in 12.2@ 120MPH
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/11132003105848.pdf

Admittedly the R&T testing is always slower (and more realistic of an average driver's performance), but essentially the SRT-10 Viper is a match for the performance of the Ford GT in R&T and in MT. Another 4MPH is at least another 50 crank HP (easy to tweak with a smaller pulley).

-Dean.

 

[Y2K5SRT]

I would also note that the GT was a preproduction car in every sense - not even the "final" interior. Bottom line: I suspect the production GT will gain a few pounds for the showroom, whereas the SRT was stock.

 

[SnakeEye]

I would also note that the GT was a preproduction car in every sense - not even the "final" interior. Bottom line: I suspect the production GT will gain a few pounds for the showroom, whereas the SRT was stock.

I could not help but lol when I read your 'bottom line' about the Ford gaining a few pounds (in production trim); isn't it already some 250lbs over its target? Plus, a $150K Ford ... who could have imagined (have you driven a Ford lately?!).

The more competition in the hp war the merrier though...

 

[GR8_ASP]

I think if you go back far enough Ford was quoting 2800 lbs. That was when Colleti bragged about making the Viper into a garter snake. Don't think so!

 

[Snakester]

Yeah their orginal weight goals were "under 3000lbs" so that puts the Ford GT around 400lbs over it's target weight.
And their price target was "around $100K", and I guess that $150K is "around" $100K.

It says a lot that despite Coletti's "worm bait" comments, the Ford GT appears to offer that SAME performance as the SRT-10 Viper (at twice the price).

Still, it's not that bad of an embarassment because many high-status European performance cars cost even more and offer less performance.

And the Mercedes SLR also had a projected weight of their supercar at under 3000lbs, and ended up being more than 800lbs! over their weight goals.

I'm still looking forward to a comprehensive shootout (Like in MT) but including the Gallardo, GT3 and GT2, Ferrari 360 Stradale, S7, Shelby Series 2, Enzo, Carrera GT, Ford GT, and the SRT-10 Viper.

-Dean.

 

[doctorbob]

Dodge has the answer....bring on the SRT Coupe.

 

[SnakeEye]

Dodge has the answer....bring on the SRT Coupe.

Whoa ... it's already here in the SRT-10, just throw in a rollbar if need be and go out and get 'em.