Re: \"Supertuner Challenge\" in Car and Driver w/o a Viper????
I read Kyle's original post. There was nothing personal about it. Yet everyone who replied seem to illogically ignore his points instead of trying to refute them. As a Viper owner, I have no reason to back him or White Supra, but I must say that is seemed like the responses to his post had a more enraged tone. I really don't understand why so many people pointed out his "biting the hand" and his posting to a Viper board. What difference does it make who he works for? Just because this is a Viper board, we can't take some criticism? What happened to the technical discussion that should have followed? And, he did not come on the board "representing" HMS, he merely stated that he tunes his cars.
However, his later post definitely went way too far, and way beyond the responses from the Viper owners. I wish his buttons weren't pushed by the responses, because it might have been an interesting thread. I don't want to make light of his personal attacks, which were unwarranted, however.
My unquailified response to him is that anything more expensive than a shifter cart could be considered low on the "bang-for-buck" scale. Heck, I could probably get my little red wagon to pull 10s in the 1/4 if I wanted to put a VW motor on it, but what would that mean? So what if the Viper has a lot of cubes and doesn't get 1 hp per inch? I could argue that a Supra or Porsche is weak for a car that has TWO turbochargers on it, after all they don't have 800 hp do they? Some carmakers use lightweight chassis' with small hi-tech motors with boosters, others go with a more weight, more inches, and more torque. Sometimes it all evens out, sometimes not.
Also, how could a Viper not be a good start for mods? Look at the racing record! Obviously, there must be some potential there. Dollar for dollar the mods are expensive, yes. Why don't you talk to your boss about lowering the prices? Nevertheless, is it the car's fault if the aftermarket parts are priced too high?
Lastly, sometimes archaeic is better. Nothing wrong with a pushrod normally aspirated engine. So the design is older, does that make it not as good? Not necessarly, in fact it might make it more durable. I personally don't believe that much progress has been made technically in the automotive industry in the last 30 years, other than tires and computers. Doesn't the Shelby Cobra still hold the 0-100-0 record time?
I welcome Kyle back to the board, but only without personal attacks.
