Tornado anyone?

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Has anyone tried the TORNADO engine performance booster. It's an insert that goes in your straight tubes to make a "vortex" of air so air flows more smoothly. Anyone dyno'd with & without it? I saw the infomercial and it looks promising.
 

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Something like 30% more power me thinks. Lol.

ps-nice color choice.
 

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Rip-off. There is some speculation that it would have helped carbuereted engines, but that's about it. Consider that the reason you bought smooth tubes in the first place was to REDUCE turbulence in your airflow...
 

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A Tornado Salesman came up to a few of us at a Car show awhile back and told us he had one that would fit right into our "speaker grille" inlets on the hood. :rolleyes:

I wonder if he has anything to help me aim my headlight lasers...
 

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If you send the Tornado to 30 of your friends, you'll recieve a cheque from Bill Gates! I'm a lawyer, this really works, trust me! Microsoft can track your e-mails AND Tornados!
 

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I would opt first for the electric fans you can install in the straight tubes. Thats about all the cast piston cars can handle for forced induction!!
 

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If you send the Tornado to 30 of your friends, you'll recieve a cheque from Bill Gates! I'm a lawyer, this really works, trust me! Microsoft can track your e-mails AND Tornados!

What does Microsoft have to do with this post? :rolleyes:
 

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you are asking about the tornado? i have a "Ding King" that i will sell you real cheap.....
 

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If you do a lot of research on this, there are a number of people (experts?) that claim that these products not only do NOT work, but they are cheaply made and in many instances have broken and the broken parts were sucked into the engine causing major damage. At one point, there was someone on ebay, that was in violation of their rules but ran a very very long "announcement", almost a dissertation proving that these tornados are detrimental to your car. He went on, and on, and on.... Anyway, since he was not selling anything, I'm sure he only lasted for a short time on ebay, but his "announcement" was as convincing as the late nite guys on TV that are pushing tornados. So if you do this, do your research first.
 

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When they put the Malibu on the dyno, it had an increase of ~5 hp after the tornado. Anyone can fake a dyno pull. They could have had the car in a different gear (car was an auto), they could of ran a hot engine for the non-tornado pull, and let it cool, then install the tornado. Too many variations.

A college friend of mine said his mom bought one, and didn't notice an increase in HP. But you typically can't feel a 10 HP difference from what I've heard from owners on here. But he said the MPGs weren't effected either.

I'd imagine you could get on, install it at a dyno place, and if HP/TQ doesn't increase, send it back and get a refund.
 

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Forget the Tornado and go to Pep Boys and get some new dual underslung muffler bearings for your Viper...huge power increase.
 
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If you do a lot of research on this, there are a number of people (experts?) that claim that these products not only do NOT work, but they are cheaply made and in many instances have broken and the broken parts were sucked into the engine causing major damage. At one point, there was someone on ebay, that was in violation of their rules but ran a very very long "announcement", almost a dissertation proving that these tornados are detrimental to your car. He went on, and on, and on.... Anyway, since he was not selling anything, I'm sure he only lasted for a short time on ebay, but his "announcement" was as convincing as the late nite guys on TV that are pushing tornados. So if you do this, do your research first.
That's all I needed to hear to deter me from buying one. Thanks for being one of the only ones with an intellegent answer.
 

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These type of air mixers will have some benefit on throttle body
injection, or carburators, where the gasoline mixture has to travel through the intake. I can't see it as a benefit on direct port injection.
 

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saphire - I got that and the clip that goes on your fuel line that increased my fuel mileage to 36mpg city out of a JC Whitney catalog! LOL!!!
 

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im still tryin to sell this complete set of high speed bumper bolts, i took them off cause when i installed the tornado, the combo of the two products for total RWHP increase was just waay too damnn much too handle!
 

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I think Sapphire came here looking for a real answer. What he got are few answers. If you don't know, don't try to cover up your lack of knowledge by making fun of the guy.

I think HP is correct. Since our Vipers have direct port injection, these devices won't work well. On a throttle body injection car??....I would like to see the Dyno run.

At the last Viper Dyno Days, a member showed up with a set of Tornados. We Dynoed, then attempted to put them in. They did not fit. I was wanting to see the Dyno run myself.

Since we are on the subject, I would like to see a increase in HP with Smooth Tubes. I hear claims of 5 to 15 HP! Suuuuure you got that much. Now K&N's will help. Smooth tubes may help driving down the highway with a good velocity of air, but standing still on a Dyno and getting a measurable 5 to 15HP increase?
 

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And Sapphire GOT several real answers, and went away happy.
Relax a little, Jerry, you'll live longer.
 

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noone needs to get their ******* bunged up. i agree he was looking for answers and he got them, we're all viper owners which makes us all part of a group, and a little ballbustin among the group is never a bad thing. secondly, i highly doubt anyone made fun of the guy but i do think everyone made fun of the piece of shiit scam called the tornado! and lets face it thatll get the point across and therefore the answer as well if not better than some technical BS and stats!
 

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Since we are on the subject, I would like to see a increase in HP with Smooth Tubes. I hear claims of 5 to 15 HP! Suuuuure you got that much. Now K&N's will help. Smooth tubes may help driving down the highway with a good velocity of air, but standing still on a Dyno and getting a measurable 5 to 15HP increase?
To properly dyno a car, you should have a fan blowing air toward the front of the car. This aids in cooling, as the engine (in a Viper) is pulling in 4th to about 140 MPH at redline. this is where the HP increases come about, but the air being forced at the car, and into the intakes. I've never heard of a 15 HP increase, unless they have K&Ns and/or they dyno'd 5,000 miles after the first dyno after its break in point.
Two GTSs I know ('01 and '00 with ~8,000 miles and 4,000 miles respectively) with same mods (K&N drop in filters, smooth tubes, and Sanke Oyl cat-back exhaust) pulled within 2 HP of each other. The test was done on the same day, one after the other, same test driver, same SAE corrected dyno.
 
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