"Sounds like you have a personal problem with me."
Yes, unfortunately that is true. But even good people have disagreements with each other at times and if everyone in this world thought like you or me, that would be quite boring.
"Too bad but stating the truth should not result in bashing. And as for the pricing, I think many dealers will agree with the pricing."
Unfortunately, IMHO, your truths are not necessarily the real market. Because you are so well liked, prolific and obviously revered on this forum gives you the added stature I referred to. This may seem to you a pretty left handed compliment, but a compliment none the less. People listen to you, read and take what you write as fact. The buying and selling of automobiles seem to bring out bottom feeders and if this is the basis of where your information comes from?... I don't know another way of putting this. I'm not getting through, that's obvious.
As an example, lets say you own a Dodge dealership. You are not trying to be biggest Viper dealer but you try to stock a representative inventory. All your prospective Viper customers do their due diligence including using the VCA forum to make sure they get the best possible price. Enter a layperson, really nice guy, wants to be friends with everyone and just loves his Viper and the lifestyle that comes with that ownership, his name is Larry. Anyway, because Larry is on his computer most of the time because of his job, he has plenty of downtime so he scans for Vipers for sale. Ebay; small used dealer ads; guys that try to pass off junk they rebuild in their rented 800 sq. ft. industrial space as a good, solid vehicle (yes, unfortunately there is a tad of misrepresentation in the used car market); auto traders that if they make $200-$500 per car they ok with it, do it 10-20 times a day and never even touch the car, just broker it, put ads in...Viper cheap! So Larry, wanting to the right thing by his fellow club members reports all of these prices. Cheap is investigated by many, true market is the last placed to look and too high is ridiculed by all of us here. Every one of your prospective customers comes in thinking they can buy at the price they saw on the official Viper VCA board. Keith, do you let the customer leave your showroom empty handed? Could one of the solutions you come up with be not to stock or sell Vipers so you and your staff don't have to deal with prospective Viper buyers? Or if you have to sell it because of flooring costs, etc. you might consider discounting it heavily. Customer ends up here bragging how he got such a great discount. Might you, as owner/gen mgr start thinking, maybe I don't want to support that sku any longer, or at least the bare minimum that is required by the Dodge franchise? Ever had to go to a Dealer for emergency service or support only to find they don't know the first thing about Vipers. Does anyone think DC will cut it's dealers out and sell the Viper direct? Does anyone think DC will cut the Viper from it's product line?
You and I will never have a meeting of the minds on this point. So be it.
bashing???? When I first entered VCA forums I was told to get a thick skin. I tried to bash nice.
"Lastly, my posting style? Are you kidding me? Just because of the way I post, you feel that I do not deserve my post count?"
NO, I absolutely believe you deserve your post count.
"I feel that I have devoted a lot of time to this board and have hopefully helped at least one person."
No argument from me here.
"I have not done anything wrong and I love this board so sorry, you are just going to have to deal with it."
Please re-read what I asked of you. And yes, I will have to deal with it as you will with me.
One more time: I am truly sorry you are so offended. This is not disingenuous. You obviously have many supporters sticking up for you. I applaud you. Me, well believe it or not, I not writing this for my entertainment or that of anyone's. I have taken a lot of licks here, expected it. I guess while I have not spent as much time as you, I too have hopefully helped at least one person here at sometime.
Regards my friend,
Larry
Warfang, you are an idiot.....