James,
Thanks for the info, even if the side scoop news is not what many (most?) of us wanted to hear.
2charmed,
I definitely wouldn't go by a 1/18th model, especially on a car that's not even released yet....Even my 1/18th blue GTS model, purchased 5 years after blue GTS's first came out, has...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Russ M:
I say 430-440 at R&D Dyno, 460 at most other dyno shops. And about 500lb's at the wheels, due to the 525 tq rating.
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Russ, I'm confused by this comment. My '97 GTS dyno'd at 425...
I was hoping that the final quoted bhp number for the SRT would be higher than the "500" that was initially announced, but based on the info that came with the pricing announcement, it looks like that is not to be.
I'm going to guess the SRTs will dyno in the 445-450 rwhp range (based on the...
If you go to the FAQ on this site and go to the section on power, you will see numbers that imply 13%-15% driveline loss. Hence the formulas that treynor posted (though I don't know where he got 12%).
Anyway, all that really matters is how much power you put to the ground. Power at the...
I also believe the price is a disappointment. It's nice that Dodge wants to make money on the SRT, but if the car will not sell at $90K out the door, which is what MSRP will equate to in California, they won't sell!!!! Plain and simple. If the car needs to be priced at $65K MSRP to sell, then...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mike Brunton:
Look on the bright side - you can hang out with MarkO at car shows and proclaim anything made after the early 2000's to be pure and utter cr*p!
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Yeah, that's some consolation...
95yellowvett,
Don't worry, there are many over here who sympathize with what you Vette people are going through, although in your case the ugliness of the C6 far exceeds that of the SRT.
We have gone through the same phases as you:
1. Excitement over some of the proposed design studies...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Venom Lover:
Guys, I don't see how 1/2 mile in 13.7 sec can be right.
Let's say for sake of argument the 1/4 mile was accomplished in 12 sec at 120 mph (not likely if Helbig totally smoked the tires off the...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by USAF BAD ASP:
My viper accelerates at over 1g. Just sitting here in my office I'm at one G.
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Not to get all technical (and sorry if you were joking and I'm being dense), but the 1g...
Guys, I don't see how 1/2 mile in 13.7 sec can be right.
Let's say for sake of argument the 1/4 mile was accomplished in 12 sec at 120 mph (not likely if Helbig totally smoked the tires off the line as stated above, but let's give the benefit of the doubt). Let's say the average speed in the...
I don't recall the R&T article saying the pictures they showed represent the final styling of the C6. But I agree, the pictures shown are ugly. Makes the SRT seem not-so-bad.
On the other hand, the design studies I've seen for the next-generation Mustang look really cool....
Hi, Steve!
Haven't done any road racing for a long while. I've been to Carlsbad a few times this year -- running some personal best ETs, so I'm pretty happy about that!
Anyway, I agree, I'd take the SRT at $76K over the GT-40 at $160K. But if I could get a GT-40 near MSRP, then it becomes a...
Cody,
I hadn't really thought about the effect of previous production on demand for the new vehicle. In truth, I'm not sure that matters much since both the GT-40 and SRT are pretty much redesigned from scratch. As for 2003 production numbers, as I understand it, the plan is for a late MY03...
Steve,
Fair enough, and I do appreciate what VCA has done for us, so I don't mean to sound ungreatful to the VCA. On the other hand, even with a cert program, why are dealers charging nominal $$ over invoice? The cert program itself wouldn't have prevented dealers from charging MSRP, or even...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jwwiii:
I think we were given a 10K DISCOUNT because we were allowed to buy the SRT at a rock-bottom price.
Food for thought. Consider those benefits. What do you think?
Jim
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You can try...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Craig 201 MPH:
[B] The reson dealers are only charging a bit over invoice is because if you don't like thier price you can simply go elsewhere. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, this is exactly my point. It's all...
The "Price announced on SRT-10" thread got me to thinking, especially a comment made by Snakester. I was contending that with MSRP of $83K for the SRT, the GT-40 starts looking like an ever-more-attractive alternative (Ford claiming/hinting MSRP < $100K). Snakester said something like...
Jim and Steve,
Your unwavering support of the SRT is admirable. I'm just saying that a price increase of this size is disappointing to me. If the price increase seems reasonable to you, then good for you! But don't expect everyone to share your enthusiasm for such a price increase.
From my...
Snakester,
Let's see....Unfortunately, 0-60 of 3.8 sec is also right in the range of the Z06 (3.9 sec). Before you say that the Chevy claim of 3.9 sec for the '02 Z06 is bogus, let me mention that I ran a 4.1 sec 0-60 in my bone stock '01 Z06 with 1500 mi on the odometer under far-from-ideal...
At $83K MSRP for the SRT, the GT-40 looks more and more attractive (assuming Ford holds true to its promise of MSRP <$100K). We are talking big bucks here at nearly 100 large, and if you can afford $83K for the SRT, you can afford $100K for the GT-40....
Sorry but with the economy in the...
So all the hypothesizing is interesting, but I can tell you from personal experience: rear end ratio will affect the results as measured by a Dynojet. I did a before and after dyno when I put the 3.55's in my GTS, and I went from 455 rwhp to 445 rwhp (SAE corrected, peak).
Is this a real...
Re: Since I got my \'96 GTS, I\'ve been asked a couple questions I can\'t answer............
I'm always annoyed by people who want to ask how much the car costs....I guess they're not meaning to pry, but it seems like a personal question. I guess quoting MSRP is the best way to go. Or if I'm...
Ahhhh, Tony, at last you decide to come over to the dark side....
Hopefully the Vette guys don't know about this....
As for the sound, I actually think it's a plus that it doesn't sound like a V8. It's true that stock, the sound is nothing to talk about, but the same is true of a C5....In my...
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