2 Dead in Viper Crash: :(

[97snk]

RIP Terry and David.

 

[adamlotus]

very sad to hear ,vipers and all high hp cars are no joke,i have had 5 vipers and i have been bite and bitten.these cars do need traction control ,i know some will say if you cant handle the power its too much for you ,i have seen some great drivers loose these cars.rest in peace.

 

[adamlotus]

Another 2 deaths, who will it be next month? Yes, I have broken speed laws but many[not all] of these horrible accidents wouldn't happen if the driver spent some time at Viper Days or other driver school getting comfortable with 500-600 HP. Just my 2 cents; my prayers to the family; terrible, just terrible.

it doesnt matter if you have gone to driving school or not,you get on it at full throtle anything can happen to the best of us.

 

[Greg-TT]

It's sad to hear a tragic news like this....
My prayers go out the family he left behind...and may Terry and David rest in peace...

 

[Fatboy 18]

Why do the wrecks always seam to be steered to the left? Makes me wonder about the lower A-arm cracking. I'm always looking at mine. This worries me.

I check mine often too. I hope they check out the car and feed back any findings!

Really do feel sorry for the family's, very sad indeed

RIP Guys.

 

[gilly6993]

RIP....very sad....he had to be going pretty damn fast to do that kind of damage to that tree.....

 

[RichieSRT10]

Your right. If it wasn't an officer, the title would be "viper street racing crashes and kills occupants."

Nick

Being above the law didn't help with this accident.

 

[Canyon707]

Above the law or not, speeding tickets or not, he's a Viper brother who lost his life and will forever affect the lives of countless others including his 3 kids. No one deserves that.

RIP Terry and David.

Amen to that.

 

[Peter Nielsen]

Stupid people can kill themselves and others with 100rwhp, they don't need 500 or 600. Hell, a stupid person can kill themself in a bicyle. I am not calling anyone stupid, simply stating the obvious.

"Careless" is the word, not stupid.

Chainsaw analogy: Put a chainsaw in the hands of someone that does not respect the tool, nor understand the dangers, and an accident is bound to happen...

Respect!

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

it doesnt matter if you have gone to driving school or not,you get on it at full throtle anything can happen to the best of us.

Don't downplay the effectiveness of high speed drivers training. I have no idea what the stats are but I'm betting the number of track rats that have killed themselves doing stupid stuff on public streets is considerably disproportionately in favor of the tracker than those who don't track.

 

[eucharistos]

Don't downplay the effectiveness of high speed drivers training. I have no idea what the stats are but I'm betting the number of track rats that have killed themselves doing stupid stuff on public streets is considerably disproportionately in favor of the tracker than those who don't track.

that's the answer to the question i didn't ask, thanks chuck

 

[2006red/whitecoupe]

Don't downplay the effectiveness of high speed drivers training. I have no idea what the stats are but I'm betting the number of track rats that have killed themselves doing stupid stuff on public streets is considerably disproportionately in favor of the tracker than those who don't track.

I like to play the odds, and you my friend, have hit the nail on the head.

 

[BolsOut]

Viper days won't replace common sense. Stupid is as stupid does.
This guy was as dumb as the California State highway patrol officer that killed his family in the Toyota with the stuck gas pedal, he had time to call 911, but did not know how to turn his car off or put in nuetral.

Ugg.
Please do not assume you know what really happened with either incident. "A high rate of speed" could be 60 in a 45 zone or 45 in a 30 zone. We dont know. Somebody could have cut him off & split the scene (non-contact hit&run). We dont know. Judging from the pics it looks like a 50-60 mph impact. Much beyond that and cars start to disintegrate rapidly.

Jumping to conclusions & calling both Officers integrity into question merely makes you sound like an and serves to anger those of us with more common sense.

 

[trainville]

"At a high rate of speed" Another guy with a badge whos above the law. And wonder how many speeding tickets he wrote in the last week.

What makes you think that a cool guy (who happens to be in Law Enforcement) who was out enjoying his car thinks HE is above the law. I know a lot of officers and can't think of even one that thinks he is above the law. On our own time, we are subject to the same laws as everyone else......a badge isn't a get out of jail free card.

This was a huge loss of two lives to a family and you start flaming his profession and attitude? Sorry to rant, but you need to get your head screwed on right!

 

[usaf0016]

Disgusts me to think that some of the people here can take something involving a horrible accident in a vehicle in which they ALL may become a bit spirited with in their driving style, and then trash the person who was driving because of their "stupidity" and form a double standard because they have not wrecked like the person who did we are talking about. These deaths are horrible, no one deserves it. Makes me sick, just like the thread about wallbanger and his accident, that was also just disgusting to watch play out.

And to all of you making the comments about him thinking he is "above the law" and the other nasty little remarks about him being an officer of the law. Shame on you.

 

[ViperGTS]

I hate such stories.

I crashed my first Viper after owning it for years driving in the rain just a little bit above 50 mph. No speeding. No spirited driving. Just one little MOMENT of not being 150% in the car when changing lanes and driving over a very wide wet slippery white mark on the road - a Viper demands your ATTENTION ALL THE TIME. No excuse. It may happen to anybody sooner or later or never.

Wishing everybody a safe start into the driving season if you had your car in hibernation for months! Take a drivers training to adjust your butt and right foot to the POWER.

Condolences to the families.

 

[VIPER GTSR 91]

What makes you think that a cool guy (who happens to be in Law Enforcement) who was out enjoying his car thinks HE is above the law. I know a lot of officers and can't think of even one that thinks he is above the law. On our own time, we are subject to the same laws as everyone else......a badge isn't a get out of jail free card.

This was a huge loss of two lives to a family and you start flaming his profession and attitude? Sorry to rant, but you need to get your head screwed on right!

I LOVE you too SWEETY. And I HAVE seen the badge abused many times and used as a get out of jail card too. Too long to list on this forum.

 

[AviP]

This thread should not have anything to do about whether he was a cop or not. It doesn't make sense. Anyone here who has owned any car has broken the speed limit. Accidents happen and the Viper needs to be respected for it's power.

What matters is that 2 people lost their lives.

 

[eucharistos]

.... and I LOVE you too SWEETY. ....

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpizoS3HREY[/media]

 

[eucharistos]

....I crashed my first Viper after owning it for years driving in the rain just a little bit above 50 mph. No speeding. No spirited driving. Just one little MOMENT of not being 150% in the car when changing lanes and driving over a very wide wet slippery white mark on the road - a Viper demands your ATTENTION ALL THE TIME. No excuse. It may happen to anybody sooner or later or never.

Wishing everybody a safe start into the driving season if you had your car in hibernation for months! Take a drivers training to adjust your butt and right foot to the POWER.

Condolences to the families.

these are the types of situations that are good to be reminded of, sorry it happened to you, and thanks for letting others know

 

[Achilles99]

Don't downplay the effectiveness of high speed drivers training. I have no idea what the stats are but I'm betting the number of track rats that have killed themselves doing stupid stuff on public streets is considerably disproportionately in favor of the tracker than those who don't track.

That's probably because track rats don't really speed that often on public streets or do high speed runs with others around.

I'm sure you'll agree that once you track your Viper properly and/or participate in driver's training, going 150mph in a straight line on a public road just isn't that exciting.

Personally, I stopped doing most crazy stuff on public streets once an attorney friend reminded me that I would lose everything if I hurt someone street racing. Not to mention how heavy that would weigh on my conscience AND create heartache for the victim's family.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

That's probably because track rats don't really speed that often on public streets or do high speed runs with others around.

I'm sure you'll agree that once you track your Viper properly and/or participate in driver's training, going 150mph in a straight line on a public road just isn't that exciting.

I agree 100%, the street bores me. But trackers are also more likely to have a better skill level.

 

[Achilles99]

I would agree with that generalization for sure, although my recent spins on track would seem to indicate otherwise

 

[CCBrian]

I agree 100%, the street bores me. But trackers are also more likely to have a better skill level.

Chuck, I agree 100%. I drive like an old lady on the street-but get the hell out of my way on the track!

 

[JimK]

Lives taken in single vehicle, sports/exotic car accidents always bother me the most (not that a life lost any other way is any less painful). I guess its because we all know they were just having fun before that split second things went wrong.

My heartfelt prayers go out to the wife and children who lost thier father and grandfather! Its not like they were out knocking off banks together - they were out having some FUN. So sad...

Jim

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Chuck, I agree 100%. I drive like an old lady on the street-but get the hell out of my way on the track!

Use it, don't abuse it. When I have a clear turn I'll take it with a little spirit so I can feel the HP and the handling, do a little heal n toe practice, but that doesn't mean I go insane on the street. The tracks are so much more fun.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Its not like they were out knocking off banks together

I wish you would have picked something like pedophiles or Islamabombers. I know it's wrong but there is something admirable about robbing a bank.

 

[CAP]

I know this is an old thread but......

Has anyone heard any more on this?

I can't seem to find any new information at all.

This occurred about 100 yards from my house, so I see that tree everyday. It still has some memorial items at its base. It is a not-so-pleasant reminder.

 

[Flash1034]

Being above the law didn't help with this accident.

What a stupid thing to say...

Flash

 

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