I agree, and if you can't afford a decent one, wait until you can.
2002 GTS Purchase
- Thread starter GViper
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I agree, and if you can't afford a decent one, wait until you can.
AZTVR
Enthusiast
I agree with the above. I can't tell the difference unless the graphite and steel color cars are next to each other in the sun.
I get great reactions to my car, particularly the color, at most gas station stops. I went to the Grand Canyon and felt like I was escorting a super model at each overlook parking area. The foreign tourists especially love the car. (Of course, you will get those reactions with most any color Viper.)
terminator02
Viper Owner
Well also it isnt like red is ALWAYS "most common" either. I haven't checked the registry lately but in 2000 the big color was steel gray. My 2000 GTS ACR is solid red and is 1 of 35 which makes it very "rare." No one will see it that way but that is the absolute truth. People break down rarity by year and options. So if that is the case, then RED should be most desirable that year. It's all BS and I could care less.
Plus if you don't care about collectibility then there is nothing nicer than taking a solid red GTS and stripping it with black stripes
2snakes4us
Enthusiast
Color does not see to play that much of a roll on price. Unless you are red. No one wants those!
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Here is the real low-down on color , Red is the most desired and that is why there are more red. And all real snakes have scales, well only the RED, Blue, Graphite, Green, have scales, I'm not sure on silver, but Yellow,White,Black do not!
Check your Snakes Badge.
Bird325
Enthusiast
GViper, I'm sorry to inform you, but you just missed out on a low miles (17K) '02 with lots of appearance upgrades including HRE wheels in the color combo you're looking for. It was up in Nebraska and don't feel too bad, I got beat out by a guy that was willing to pay for it sight unseen just as I was making my travel arangements. It was a steal at $40K.
Just decide what you want and keep your eyes open. By the way, I ended up buying a beautiful Sapphire/Silver from a VCA member ... this board is a great place to go looking for your dream car.
Just decide what you want and keep your eyes open. By the way, I ended up buying a beautiful Sapphire/Silver from a VCA member ... this board is a great place to go looking for your dream car.
Gviper, get with Bernie and get the car you want. Bernie knows Vipers and when you buy from him you know you are getting a no stories, researched and well maintained car. He only deals in the best cars.
I bought my car from him sight unseen and got exactly what I wanted, no surprises and no BS. I couldn't be happier.
I bought my car from him sight unseen and got exactly what I wanted, no surprises and no BS. I couldn't be happier.
I didn't realize that Viper prices have gone up? Instead of only being worth $30,000 they're worth $60,000 for a Gen 2?
The only color I saw that made a significabnt price difference (+$3,000)was Blue/white.
There was no mention as to GTS or R/T (which have different prices).
Buy the car closest to what you want. Stock exhaust sounds like crap in Gen 2s and the massive Cats cause fires and burned skin while lowering mileage. Runcraps and even PS1 tires are dangerous when compared to the new PS2s. Gen 3 brake upgrade is worth ten times what the ABS will do for you. Earlier cars without ABS only need Tom's rear caliper upgrade to equal/outperform ABS cars. 14" front brake kit will outstop every Gen 1 and 2 brake system included lightweight slotted and drilled rotors.
Color? A paint job for any color you want is probably $5,000. Buy a Viper with Gen 3 brakes and paint it for mid $40s.
Unless you're a collector and have no plans to drive it ... stock needs to be improved. Not Dodge's fault that the Government forced regulations requiring garbage Catylitic Convertors.
I'd rather pay an extra $3,000 for a car with brake upgrades that stops within 5' of the best in the world instead of ten thou or more extra for any particular color.
Ted
The only color I saw that made a significabnt price difference (+$3,000)was Blue/white.
There was no mention as to GTS or R/T (which have different prices).
Buy the car closest to what you want. Stock exhaust sounds like crap in Gen 2s and the massive Cats cause fires and burned skin while lowering mileage. Runcraps and even PS1 tires are dangerous when compared to the new PS2s. Gen 3 brake upgrade is worth ten times what the ABS will do for you. Earlier cars without ABS only need Tom's rear caliper upgrade to equal/outperform ABS cars. 14" front brake kit will outstop every Gen 1 and 2 brake system included lightweight slotted and drilled rotors.
Color? A paint job for any color you want is probably $5,000. Buy a Viper with Gen 3 brakes and paint it for mid $40s.
Unless you're a collector and have no plans to drive it ... stock needs to be improved. Not Dodge's fault that the Government forced regulations requiring garbage Catylitic Convertors.
I'd rather pay an extra $3,000 for a car with brake upgrades that stops within 5' of the best in the world instead of ten thou or more extra for any particular color.
Ted
safireviper
Enthusiast
The reason the Viper was available in red for all these model years is because red is the official color of Dodge.
AHudson777
Enthusiast
I didn't have time to read all the posts on this thread, so apologies if a repost -
Was looking for a different car, and noticed this gray Viper GTS at Best of Show Automotive. Just 1605 miles - -
http://inventory.bestofshowautomotive.com/CarDetails.asp?VIN=131542
By the way, I wanted ONLY Steel Gray, no stripes, and got super lucky when the guy who had it wanted my 996tt Porsche. So, look until 'the' car you want shows up, and be prepared to pay what it takes. "Bargain" and "Exactly what I wanted" are rarely mentioned in the same sentence.
Was looking for a different car, and noticed this gray Viper GTS at Best of Show Automotive. Just 1605 miles - -
http://inventory.bestofshowautomotive.com/CarDetails.asp?VIN=131542
By the way, I wanted ONLY Steel Gray, no stripes, and got super lucky when the guy who had it wanted my 996tt Porsche. So, look until 'the' car you want shows up, and be prepared to pay what it takes. "Bargain" and "Exactly what I wanted" are rarely mentioned in the same sentence.
agentf1
Enthusiast
Yes, Bernie's cars are TOP quality. How far are you from his showroom? It is worth the ride to go look at his cars. And if you are too far he is one of the "few" dealers I would trust buying a car site unseen from.
There are NOT many cars left in Graphite (wasn't many to begin with) that are perfect and have super low mileage.agentf1
Enthusiast
AHudson777
Enthusiast
Too bad it has that wing on it.
Agreed there. Would make a nice Viper bookshelf in the garage though.
agentf1
Enthusiast
So did you buy Bernie's 2002 Graphite/Silver Viper yet? What are you waiting for, I am sure it is perfect, all his cars are.
Keep us informed and good luck with your search. Make sure you post pics once you get one.
Keep us informed and good luck with your search.
Make sure you post pics once you get one.GTS Bruce
Enthusiast
Don't rule out an 01 in Sapphire. 01-02 are the best of gen 2 for sure. Low miles is not always the best indicator. They might have all been at a drag strip. Better to find a very highly maintained car then one that sat just deteriorating. GTS Bruce
GTS Bruce
Enthusiast
Sapphire looks fabulous when clean and shiney ,but like crap when dusty or dirty. GTS Bruce
