Anyone Received Awards or Payout from V-10 Nationals yet??

[Tom Welch]

Beginning to wonder about the awards and payout for this event. We were not slow in sending in our entry fee.

Emailed Dr. Roof about this a few weeks back.

I have not archived yet but I believe that there was a set of Michelin Tires due to the winner of the "Street Tire Shootout" and maybe something else...not sure.

And cash ($ 200.00) for each class winner. I think that there was also a contingency cash for Belanger Header equipped Vipers.

I am due the set of tires (17" please) and some cash for winning the street tire shootout and Mod 2. Any other class winners due that have not received their awards?

Tom

 

[J DAWG]

Dang. If I knew we were racing for money, I would have never let Steve have the right lane.

 

[Dr Roof]

Tom

Jon B at Parts rack is responsible for the street tires as well as the bellanger contigency.

I emailed this in the response back to you regarding your email. See Jon B at Partsrack.

 

[Tom Welch]

So, after everything is done, we have to chase after our awards.

I would think Jon would have contacted us by now.??

Tom

 

[V10 MOJO]

J Smith; LOL

 

[99 R/T 10]

Tom is right, you shouldn't have to chase after your own award. Where is JonB?

 

[Maverick The Electrician]

After the event I think Prashant had said the payout would be figured out and mailed to everyone. Haven't heard anything yet.

 

[Doug Supercharged Vipers]

Beginning to wonder about the awards and payout for this event. We were not slow in sending in our entry fee.

Emailed Dr. Roof about this a few weeks back.

I have not archived yet but I believe that there was a set of Michelin Tires due to the winner of the "Street Tire Shootout" and maybe something else...not sure.

And cash ($ 200.00) for each class winner. I think that there was also a contingency cash for Belanger Header equipped Vipers.

I am due the set of tires (17" please) and some cash for winning the street tire shootout and Mod 2. Any other class winners due that have not received their awards?

Tom

Tom -

I agree with you, nobody should have to chase down the prizes.
But as you know, David was generous enough to bring us an event that was extremely successful for his first time ever. David's wife Christal, eight months pregnant at the time made every effort to organize the event for all of us. I really felt for her; seeing a women eight months pregnant running desperately to accommodate all of us - my heart goes out to her.

As an event sponsor myself, I know you didn't leave the event empty handed for your outstanding performance and I'm sure you will receive any winnings due as such.

It's the responsibility of the vendor to distribute any prizes donated for the event to the individuals who won them. Perhaps, you can exert a little more effort prodding the vendor who owes you what is rightfully yours .

Thanks!

Respectfully,
Doug

 

[Cudaman]

Tom... I think Dr.Roof responded to your post last night.... on R/T 10 and GTS Discussions ..... But it got MOVED to Viper Events and Gatherings
Cudaman

 

[Dr Roof]

Tom

Listen, I sacrificed for month's to get this event off. I sacrificed my family as well as my Business. I just had a baby and just catching up at work. (Actually im just getting more busy) However I responded to you via email and this forum.

I also put in over $2200.00 cash of my money for the event. (This money was to be refunded by sponosrs who have yet to send me the money) You was too cheap to be a real sponsor as well as show up unless you could run your 9 second car against 10 second cars. Where is the joy in that???

You also have been acused of cheating! Your website says it is a 2 stage nitrous system. Is that what you ran?>??

Also why are you so scared of the real Nitrous Tuners? RSI TNT JH THey always show up and race the fastest of the fast. You can't hang with them so you try and promote yourself. Well IMHO that is a disgrace.

your name should be TOM "I will race only if you let me win" Welch the slowest Nitrous viper tuner!!!!

Thank You

Jon B can be contacted Via Partsrack.com he will verify information with me and I'm sure he will send them out.

Also the rules clearly stated no dual stage system, answer honestly DId you use dual stages??????????

 

[jkracer9]

I for one thought that David did an outstanding job putting this together. Yes I too was told that their was going to be some cash but all the sponsors & Tuners did not come up with the money that they promised. Tuners that said that they would show up and also give money did neither one. So if their is some money to be given out sure I would like our share but if others did not pony up I do not want David to drop another dime on a great event.

 

[GR8_ASP]

Shouldn't stick my nose in here as it seems to be a very tense topic. However (cannot ever really keep my mouth shut anyway), I cannot understand why anyone would consider a 2 stage nitrous system to be 2 power adders. Would an infinitely adjustable system be an infinite quantity of power adders? I think not. How about a twin turbocharged verses single turbocharged? How do you factor in turbo size? How about twin superchargers, each with a flow curve exactly half of another single supercharger? The list can go on and on. Multiple power adders means more than one method of adding power. Not a higher amount of a given power adder. All of this should be without consideration of the ultimate speed. If time equalization is what you are after than bracket racing is your solution. Otherwise make realistic rules that are logic based and you will not have an issue.

Sorry for the intrusion into this topic. I did not bring up the name calling. That doesn't have a place here. Seems childish.

 

[RedGTS]

David, it didn't sound to me like Tom was attacking you or was being unappreciative. It was more in the nature of an observation, and it sounds like it's a vendor issue anyway. But now that you've unloaded on him, I'm going to watch quietly from my fallout shelter. . . . . . . .

Hopefully everything will get worked out.

 

[Tom Welch]

I don't know how Roof took this as a personal attack....that was not the point and the post does not read that way. I have said nothing about the manner of which he ran this event. He was the contact for this event. David should contact the sponsors periodically in an effort to insure that everyone is awarded for their winning efforts. As for entry fee vs. payout vs. profit or loss to the event promoter.......thats not my business. I can only hope that David did not sink money into what I thought was to become a VCA sponsored event.

Now, attacking me for posting this is ubsured! I emailed you, David, about 3 weeks ago and I believe that your response was that you were going to contact the sponsors. I'm not into posting email messages, but I can and will if you wish.

I have been nothing but polite to you.........and I am at this point insulted by your remarks. I answered the question about 2 stage nitrous, and offered to run the winner of the unlimited class, as you well know. BTW, you touted for months that you were going to run a 9 at this event(you are still touting it).........how were we to know you would not??? **** IT UP!

Again, It should not be the contestants responsibility to chase down winnings. I did not make my entry fee check payable to a vendor/sponsor. End of story.

Tom

P.S. ViperSRT, you are exactly correct....unless you are in 2nd place.

RedGTS, Im not going to get into a war of words here, but I surely did not warrant such a response. I sponsored the previous race at BG (VOI) to the tune of several hundred dollars, and felt as if a "T" Shirt wasn't worth the financial investment and effort. This event I felt was different, mostly because David was promoting it so well. I did feel though, that my responsibility is to MY customers, so I sponsored a contingeny prize for my customers only. This is a very common method of sponsoring during NHRA events.

I never said that I was in a rush to get these awards. They are not going to make or break me. This started out as a simple question to those in attendance to see if anyone had received anything yet..WOW.

 

[GARY J]

It would be a last resort for me to come on the forum to get my point across. When I had a problem with J H a while back I came on the forum and told my story only after multiple attempts to rectify the situation man to man. I hope the same actions were taken prior to this post.

 

[Mike Brunton]

Tom

Listen, I sacrificed for month's to get this event off. I sacrificed my family as well as my Business. I just had a baby and just catching up at work. (Actually im just getting more busy) However I responded to you via email and this forum.

I also put in over $2200.00 cash of my money for the event. (This money was to be refunded by sponosrs who have yet to send me the money) You was too cheap to be a real sponsor as well as show up unless you could run your 9 second car against 10 second cars. Where is the joy in that???

You also have been acused of cheating! Your website says it is a 2 stage nitrous system. Is that what you ran?>??

Also why are you so scared of the real Nitrous Tuners? RSI TNT JH THey always show up and race the fastest of the fast. You can't hang with them so you try and promote yourself. Well IMHO that is a disgrace.

your name should be TOM "I will race only if you let me win" Welch the slowest Nitrous viper tuner!!!!

Thank You

Jon B can be contacted Via Partsrack.com he will verify information with me and I'm sure he will send them out.

Also the rules clearly stated no dual stage system, answer honestly DId you use dual stages??????????

This response shows a complete and utter lack of class. Textbook case of "sore loser".

Sorry David, thumbs down big time.

 

[Wing King]

Guys, I'm just catching this thread on Father's Day. Let's all chill out, hug our kids, and let the next several days sort things out.

First, on behalf of the VCA Board of Directors, I would like to apologize to David for the VCA's sponsor check being so slow coming out of Headquarters, but I am promised that this has been handled now. I can understand some of his frustration.

Second, I know that JonB at the Parts Rack is away from his email until Monday the 16th. Don't anyone worry that he will not come through. In fact, I happen to believe that ALL parties to this discussion are always good for their word, so let's not be too concerned that anything other than straight shooting is going to take place in the end.

As far as rules go, no matter the venue, they are always going to be subject to interpretation. Viper Days had much the same problems in the beginning until they came up with the point system which seems to have worked reasonably well. Maybe that's a future solution for drag racers. Viper drag racing is just now starting to really hit the big-time map, and we are all going to have a learning curve going forward.

The VCA's new Motorsports Committee is trying to get up and running with some major support for drag racing. I would imagine that might include working together with all the participants to continually develop and improve rules to make them better, and also as fair as possible for all participants.

Let's make sure we work together to get this done.

 

[V10 MOJO]

lotta heat here, everyone seemed to get along damnn well at what i considered a fine event (v10 nats) so in my never humble opinion, dont get online and demean yourself, others or the event. contact the individual(s) appropriately instead of a community broadcast. shiit happens, its the way things go, relax and take a breath and work it out. and, if it still doesnt get resolved, schedule a six round event.

 

[Cudaman]

I will be one of the first people to admit David and his 8 month pregnant wife did an outstanding job and the whole trip was a heck of a lot of FUN! It was well worth the trip from west coast of Florida!

Cudaman

P.S. Was the baby's name V-10 or National ?

 

[Marv S]

were awards from VOI-7 ever sent out? I never saw what the final detail results were - in spite of the rain.

How about official, complete final results being posted or published in Viper Mag. for VCA backed drags?

 

[MichaelP]

What were the final results?

 

[GaryA]

Dr. Roof put a LOT of time and effort into this event. He stepped up when it appeared nobody else would. I'd like to publicly thank him for doing a great job (especially for his first event). Wow! I had no idea he did all this while his wife was expecting! I'm just disappointed that I was not able to attend.

Thanks David!

 

[Fishtail]

Beginning to wonder about the awards and payout for this event. We were not slow in sending in our entry fee.

Emailed Dr. Roof about this a few weeks back.

I have not archived yet but I believe that there was a set of Michelin Tires due to the winner of the "Street Tire Shootout" and maybe something else...not sure.

And cash ($ 200.00) for each class winner. I think that there was also a contingency cash for Belanger Header equipped Vipers.

I am due the set of tires (17" please) and some cash for winning the street tire shootout and Mod 2. Any other class winners due that have not received their awards?

Tom

I don't believe the subject matter was addressed properly by Tom Welch. I am only making a conclusion from what I read. Tom's approach towards David was done in a nonprofessional way PERIOD. It's called RESPECT!
I enjoy reading this forum and have recently joined in but I feel it is time to add my .02.

-Lou

 

[RedGTS]

Man those DLM'ers stick together. Are you guys the ones in the leather jackets with Viper Boyz on the back?

 

[Fishtail]

Man those DLM'ers stick together. Are you guys the ones in the leather jackets with Viper Boyz on the back?

Yes we do . We're the ones in the leather jackets. NO leather pants.

Lou

 

[RedGTS]

Lou, just for clarification, is that no LEATHER pants, or just no pants.

 

[Gerald]

Man those DLM'ers stick together. Are you guys the ones in the leather jackets with Viper Boyz on the back?

I think ANY tuner with a good product and happy customers, and great customer service will have loyal following ..

Gerald

 

[JonB]

What were the final results?

THAT IS THE SAME QUESTION I ASKED !

I have yet to see / receive results, or be approached by anyone who won their class. I had seen it was poorly atended. If winners KNEW PartsRack 'owed' them a prize, I hope they would have enough class to ask us about it. I am NO WELCHER...........

I am happy to arrange the prizes, but the last time I arranged one here on the site, 2 guys claimed it. I need official, published, unchallenged results, and have been assured by David (who did a GREAT labor-of-love job) that ILL get them very soon.

PartsRack offered a free set of 18" Michelin Pilot Sports to the fastest car on street tires. And these 18" Sports will be sent to the winner, once I have the David's response.

Any class winners who won using Belanger Headers or Unitrax gears / shafts are eligible as well....... we are eager for some warm n fuzzy that comes with happy winners.

 

[Fishtail]

Lou, just for clarification, is that no LEATHER pants, or just no pants.

Oh we wear pants, just no underware. We refer to it as "freeballing."

-Lou

 

[Doug Supercharged Vipers]

Just for the record:

I made a comment regarding a vendor & customer in one of my prior posts and there was NO malicious intent towards either party.

Jon B. @ PartsRack has always been a vendor of choice for Doug Levin Motorsports Inc. and always will be!

Thanks for reading,
Doug