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evomind

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ive heard the 2012 viper will be bigger from nose to rear.
i hope not, the car is huge already. id like to see it shed a few pounds too.
i know most folks here dont seem to care abt size and weight of the viper. seems that way anyway.
 

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Have not seen yet a drawing that captures the new spirit of the viper.

If they produce a car similar to the one we saw at VOI, I believe it will be very successful in the marketplace.

I also believe that many owners will choose to stay with their current cars due to the heavy emotional attachment that most Viper Owners Experience.

Some complaints about the new car will be of a defensive nature to protect their current emotional investment in their own cars.

It would not surprise me if the new Viper was quieter, faster, better handling, safer, better built, have superior fuel management and economy than the current models. Still some will wish to maintain their connection to the past.

With current marketplace Vipers becoming ever less expensive, I believe it was not prudent to keep making the same car, but with different colors. The marketplace will pull each new Viper Generation into the future.
 

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Dear Evomind,

See how these crazies rumors get started, the exact quote , if I remember correctly, was , " These pictures of the new Viper look like someone was drawing with their nose stuck up someone's rear. "

There I hope that clears it all up, and you are quite welcome!:lmao:
 

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Trust those of us who saw the 2012 Viper; it's F'IN gorgeous!!! Any rendering I've seen looks not the least bit like what I saw and have dreamt of since. I'm sure Ralph will have a perfect time and place to leak a picture before they start road testing it where spy cameras get it on film.

I hope they don't reveal the horsepower numbers til its too late for Chevrolet to do anything with the ZR1 to even stay in the ballpark.

My big hope is an aluminum frame to cut the weight a couple hundred pounds.

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Aaron
 

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This looks amazing. You'd have to be Bonkers not to like this car! (Very old inside joke, very few will get it)

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For those that were not in the room at VOI, they showed an example and took our opinions on what we did and did not like. It was NOT finalized. Hence the reason there is no media slip from Chrysler yet.

When doing a prototype for a car that was basically killed by Cerberus, dodge now needs to start from scratch. During the time of Cerberus' rain, many, many things were cut as it was not in their budget. Viper was one of them.

Look at the timeline. 2010 to 2012. In the world of product development, it takes a few years to make a good production ready piece. Same for viper. These guys basically had nothing pre designed when Fiat came in. Yeah, small stuff, but nothing at large. The engineers are now playing catch up. They have a working platform to play with, but they have a entire car to design and certify.

I don't think anything will be in stone enough for media pics for at least another year.

Oh, and short of a few small thing like the front end, this car ROCKS!
 

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Around the Block | Dodge Viper SRT-10

Last Gasp for Dodge’s Asp

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SERPENTINE To the end, the Dodge Viper has worn its crude, rude personality as a badge of honor.

By JOHN PEARLEY HUFFMAN

Published: December 3, 2010


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The Viper wears its vices as virtues.


WHAT IS IT? Two-seat supercar.
HOW MUCH? Base $92,705 including $1,700 gas-guzzler tax. (Dual graphite painted stripes are $3,425 more.) Neither traction nor stability controls are offered.
IS IT FAST? It is seriously, wickedly, shockingly quick. If yours won’t get from 0 to 60 m.p.h. in less than four seconds, there’s something wrong with it.
IS IT THIRSTY? The E.P.A. rating is 13 m.p.g. in town, 22 on the highway. But if you use the throttle as intended, those numbers will dive into the single digits.
ALTERNATIVES Skydiving, bear baiting and cage fighting.
THE Dodge Viper coupe rattles, is impossible to enter or exit gracefully, has side-exiting exhaust pipes that burn if you brush against them and comes with chintzy interior trim — much of which feels as if it’s about to break off in your hand.
The shifter for the 6-speed manual transmission is so stiff it feels as if it should be towed into gear by a team of oxen, the huge tires tram disconcertingly over pavement imperfections and the ride is stiff enough to shatter the most supple coccyx.
Of course there’s no real room for cargo, the outward visibility is crummy and the driver and passenger sit in what amount to uncomfortably narrow channels gouged out between the thick center tunnel and the tall, wide door sills.
But the Viper wears all those vices as virtues. After 19 years, it remains the most uncompromised production supercar ever built by a major manufacturer.
It’s ferocious where Ferraris are sophisticated. Raw in all the ways that Porsches are refined. And it’s as demanding as the Corvette is coddling.
This car is indifferent to its driver and his survival. You either take the Viper on its own terms or it will kill you. If you’re enough of a driver to drive it hard, it’s an exhilarating near-death experience.
The Viper’s V-10 engine, based on the architecture of an old Chrysler V-8, features a throwback valve train with a single in-block camshaft and 20 pushrods to operate the 20 overhead valves. But by dint of its enormous 8.4-liter displacement it delivers 600 horsepower at 6,100 r.p.m. and, more impressive, a cranium-compressing 560 pound-feet of torque at 5,000 r.p.m.
Even at idle this engine rocks on its mounts with menacing muscle; blip the throttle and the whole chassis seems to twist.
Launching a Viper takes some subtlety since so much power can overwhelm the rear tires even though they’re huge P345/30ZR19 Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 radials — about as close to racing rubber as original-equipment tires can be.
Once the car is moving, it seems almost to compress around you. With so much power available, the Viper seems to squirm over the tires at every gear change.
According to Insideline.com, the SRT-10 will catapult to 60 m.p.h. in just 3.9 seconds and thunder through the quarter-mile in 11.7 seconds at just over 127 m.p.h. The driver will be lucky to take a breath during the trip.
On the road the Viper delivers the sensation of infinite grip. There isn’t much steering feel from the Michelin tires in the front (P275/35ZR8), but the car reacts with a suddenness and determination that’s startling. But the grip isn’t infinite and the Viper’s rear end will break free suddenly when its limits have been exceeded. At that moment you need the reflexes of a Foyt, Andretti or Senna to recover.
After 19 model years, Dodge built its final Viper in July — a 2010 model, virtually indistinguishable from the ’09 — then idled the Conner Avenue Assembly Plant in Detroit.
But Sergio Marchionne, the chief executive of Fiat, which controls Chrysler, has promised that an all-new Viper will make its debut in 2012 with a distinct platform and engine not shared with any other Chrysler or Fiat — though a sprinkling of Ferrari fairy dust would be appreciated.
The only question is whether Chrysler will dare to once again make such a raw-nerved, ******** and glorious monster.



A version of this review appeared in print on December 5, 2010, on page AU2 of the New York edition.
 

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As others have said, I hope the Gen V curves, sex appeal and aggresivness can be comparable to the Ferrari Italia 458...except meatier like America likes!

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Above link did not work...here ya go:

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Also, can any VOI ppl that saw the gen V comment if it looks close to this animation:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtFQ2q8jTJQ&feature=related[/media]
 

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