WSAYERS80
Viper Owner
Thanks guys..
Crank pulley photo
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Are you trying to get this from the top or bottom of the car?
Fatboy 18
Enthusiast
Its a 31mm short socket you need but it must be six sided, if not you could round off the flats with a 12 sided socket If you find the 1, 1/4 socket slipping or slightly loose you could cut a small strip of an aluminium coke can to wrap around the bolt flats to take up any slack, But if your trying to use a 12 sided socket your on a looser.
I had to order a socket off the internet for the job.
Here you go http://www.gearwrench.com/impact-pr...rive-6-point-standard-impact-socket-31mm.html
I had to order a socket off the internet for the job.
Here you go http://www.gearwrench.com/impact-pr...rive-6-point-standard-impact-socket-31mm.html
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I as well and I also ordered a 6 sided!!! Never used if but ordered it just in case. Get one overnighted if you cant find one local!
WSAYERS80
Viper Owner
Both.. If the engine rotates clockwise and the bolt loosens counter; to bump start to loosen the bolt the breaker bar should rest on the power steering side frame from the top and the passenger side from the bottem.. correct?
Fatboy 18
Enthusiast
Just to check, You need to put the car in gear, handbrake on and have someone sit in the car with their foot firmly on the brake pedal. 
Correct!!!
AZTVR
Enthusiast
Best case is that you would be using a 6 point socket for whatever fits. Also, if a previous person put red loctite on it, you might need to apply some heat to weaken it. Of course, then one starts thinking about what that could do to the crank seal if gotten too hot.
WSAYERS80
Viper Owner
I ordered a 6 point 31mm short well online. Not worth rounding anything off. Gonna be a few days..
Do you have a set of dial calipers to measure the bolt head?
31mm = 1.220"
32mm= 1.259"
1-1/4=1.250"
My experience with stubborn bolts is to use sharp force to break them loose. I would actually cut the open end side of the box wrench off completely so that you have a good solid surface to smack. The only other thing that you could do is to heat up the tip of the crank shaft with a very small acetyline torch tip and try to expand the hole size.
31mm = 1.220"
32mm= 1.259"
1-1/4=1.250"
My experience with stubborn bolts is to use sharp force to break them loose. I would actually cut the open end side of the box wrench off completely so that you have a good solid surface to smack. The only other thing that you could do is to heat up the tip of the crank shaft with a very small acetyline torch tip and try to expand the hole size.
The key to what you are doing is take your time.. If that includes buying the correct tools, do it.. I think you know that already though... Take the time you are waiting for the tool to evaluate the situation / strategy!
Black Moon
Enthusiast
Sometimes trying to tighten a stuck bolt first will help break it loose. A long breaker bar would be safer in my opinion than the starter method and an air compressor can never match the power of leverage. Good luck.
WSAYERS80
Viper Owner
Correct.. after 3 days of fighting it with 3 different sockets, 2 pipes and 2 breaker bars, Over the top and under the car, I accepted defeat today. I did order a 31mm short well. Gonna give that a shot. If that doesn't work I'll have to tow it..
Why not go to Sears, get a six point socket 31mm on a long breaker bar, brace the bar on the ground if you can or a solid part of the car, tap the starter with trans in neutral.
Have done that in my shop many times, you can not always fit an air gun on some cars. like others have said make sure crank spins in the right direction to loosen the bolt, I know on some Hondas they use left handed bolt.
Have done that in my shop many times, you can not always fit an air gun on some cars. like others have said make sure crank spins in the right direction to loosen the bolt, I know on some Hondas they use left handed bolt.
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AZTVR
Enthusiast
I was just in Sears a few days ago to get a socket for the axle nut on my truck. They don't sell single sockets in sizes over 30mm. One thing that I found out is that Lowe's has a great selection of impact sockets in addition to regular type(don't remember max size). They are made in Taiwan, so they are my second choice to Sears' made in the USA stuff; but, I found that many things they sell that I expected to be USA, like socket extensions/adapters, etc are made in China.
WSAYERS80
Viper Owner
Well I got my 31mm shorty well socket in the mail and its working. Just can't tell if it's the nut turning or the crank as well. So tight... It's in gear.
speedracervr4
Enthusiast
You're going to need someone on the brakes as well.
WSAYERS80
Viper Owner
Why if the rear are on the ground. Wheels aren't spinning.
Fatboy 18
Enthusiast
The extra person pushing their foot down ******* the brake just holds everything steady as you attempt to undo that Son of a Bit#h
Fatboy 18
Enthusiast
How you getting on, any luck getting it off yet? 
WSAYERS80
Viper Owner
Oh ya its off.. I have photos.. I will upload. Quite impressive lol..
Fatboy 18
Enthusiast
Cool 
WSAYERS80
Viper Owner
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There she is in all her glory. More photos on my Facebook album here. Putting the new one on tomorrow with a new bolt from dodge . Both OEM. Here is the Facebook linkhttps://www.facebook.com/uuilliam.l...81337567599.1073741831.100006172381835&type=3
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speedracervr4
Enthusiast
Hows the crank look? I would definitely pin it.
Fatboy 18
Enthusiast
Wow, yep that's well and truly Knackered!
Are you fitting a OEM replacement damper or have you upgraded to an alternative one?
Are you fitting a OEM replacement damper or have you upgraded to an alternative one?
AZTVR
Enthusiast
I would be concerned if there was any damage to the snout of the crankshaft that would allow the new damper to wiggle. I have no idea how much damage/scoring is acceptable. Just to bring back the expert opinion as to pinning the crank: http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/670285-Crank-Pully-Failure?p=3242896&viewfull=1#post3242896
WSAYERS80
Viper Owner
I'm unable to put the new Damper on. Does it need to be hydrolicaly pressed? The snout has minor damage.. threads need to be reworked. Maybe I can take it to a speed shop.. Have them look at it.
