Feel: 911 Turbo vs. Viper

[Craig 201 MPH]

I can't compare but can tell you that forged piston cars are for sure 1999 and down. Though the torque on the Viper will pull harder and sooner. No lag

 

[Butch The Snake]

Hello Seth I have had five 911 Turbos 87,91,96 and two 01 996 TTurbos's. Back in 1988 when I took delivery of my first turbo with a few mods I was running about 350 h.p. that made me one of the fastest cars on the road. When I took delivery of my 91 Turbo with one modification I was running about 400 h.p. I ran 12.7 e.t. @ 117 m.p.h. with a 2.20 60 ft time, the only thing on the road that could keep up with me was a motorcycle. The point I am trying to make is back in 1988 Corvette's were putting out about 245 h.p. or maybe a little more. That gave me about 100 extra h.p. over the Vette, the same in 91 I had 100 h.p. plus over over the 91 Vette. Not so in 1996 when the 400 h.p. 996 TTurbo came out every sports car was putting out more h.p., the Vette, Mustang and all the after market tuners Saleen, Linginfelter, Hennesey and many others were avalible making more h.p. was easy. Suddenly the the Porsche turbo's didn't have the h.p. advantage over the competition, especially Viper's with 450 h.p. and 500 t.q the playing field was level with Porsche falling behind with only 400 h.p..

Seth your 12.38 e.t @ 117 m.p.h. is decieving, thats a great e.t. at the track but on the street thats a totally different story. Try a 10 m.p.h rolling start the Viper will have at least two car lenghts on the TTurbo by the time you hit second gear. Try 60, 80,100 m.p.h. rolling start it will be worst, the Viper has to much immediate torque on the bottom end where the TTurbo doesn't.

With all the Tuners out there the Viper blows the doors of the TTurbo, go drive one and you will see. The Viper may be a little awkward at first but beleive me you get used to it.

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01 GTS 10.90 e.t. @ 131 m.p.h.
02 360 Modena
01 TTurbo Porsche
01 BMW M3
01 BMW 740i sport
02 Escalade 22" wheels, dual flow masters

 

[Venom Lover]

Butch, you have all the toys!

 

[Butch The Snake]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Venom Lover:
Butch, you have all the toys!

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[Craig 201 MPH]

Seth,

The one thing I've noticed about cars in Ontario (and Canada in general) is that the used prices are much higher than in the U.S. Right now in the Auto trader there is a 95 RT/10 with 14K kilometers for $89,500. That is huge asking $$$. In peterborough there is a 2001 yellow GTS with 10K kms for $100,000. There really isn't actively alot of Vipers for sale outside dealerships in Ontario (Cyrville Chrsler on StLaurent blvd in Ottawa has a 2002 RT/10 for $114,000) I'd say you are gonna get the best deal buying out of the states which has a more active marketplace for used Vipers where the selling/buying ratio is much more even. Up here there are alot of people looking and not alot of people selling.

Good luck with your search.

Craig

 

[Venom Lover]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Butch The Snake:
Would you live life any other way!
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Not me!

BTW, what mods do you have to bring you to 10.9 ET and 130 mph traps? Heads and cam?

 

[Craig 201 MPH]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Flat6:
Yes... the dark grey RT/10 at Cyrville is nice! I went in to look at it. I am young (27, I own a small software company with 30 employees), the sales people wouldn't even talk to me or for that matter ask if I needed anything... I decided they were kinda rude... I was 24 when I bought my first Porsche... the guys are Mark Motors were really polite, I asked about pricing and how much that works out to a month, and they sold me a car.

Seth

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wow that's not cool on their part, I showed up one night 15 mins before they closed because my car broke down close by. A young salesman drove me to my car, followed me to the dealership then drove me to UofO where I was at school. I picked it up the next day fully washed and repaired.. all for $43 too bad you didn't have the same experience.

 

[Butch The Snake]

Seth you should check out the differences between the RT/10's and the GTS's, you will find a difference.

 

[91ZR1#661]

I have not driven a Viper,but I have driven a new TT 911 and
it was very fast.Very smooth power delivery,nice steering,rides
a little choppy,but very nice.From a dead stop I think the
TT 911 would have the advantage because of the all wheel drive.
The Viper's enormous torque seems like it would be hard to
launch off the line.Now the TT650 corvette I have driven blows
them all away,but that is a highly modified car.
911 TT vs. Viper GTS=good race.
95yellovett

 

[dadsvpr]

compared my car to a regular 996. obviously not a tt but still a very nice car. the porsche is civilized in comparison to a viper.

to give you an idea i really prefer not to drive my viper in the rain, it's squirly enough as it is. i would be much more reassured doing so in a porsche, even a tt, especially with 4wd.

jason

 

[Butch The Snake]

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Not me!

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