gen 1 won't start after cam and head change , cranks ok

[mrbob]

just finished with my cam and head change , went to start the car ,it cranks and fires for a second or two . then just cranks . fuel pressure gauge is at 55 lbs. all sensors are plugged in . everything hooked up as it should be . any ideas would be greatly appreciated. the car is a 94 with 3,400 miles on it . it ran great before i tor it down for the upgrade . has been sitting for 4 months while working on it , thanks to all

 

[Vic]

Got any fault codes?

Pull a plug wire, hold it with something insulated, near chassis ground. Got spark on all ten cylinders? You can also just plug the wire onto a spare spark plug, and hold the plug threads onto ground with something insulated. Watch for the spark in the plug gap.

How did you degree the cam?

 

[mrbob]

cam degree ed +3 , not a problem . as far as spark it fired for a couple of seconds , will check for continuous spark tomorrow and double check all wiring . thanks for the input

 

[MTGTS]

check fuses and your cam sensor. Do you know how to correctly install it? It's not just a push in the hole and plug in the wire deal.

 

[KNG SNKE]

Yeah probably chopped off the cam sensor tip.

 

[RT/ED]

Check to see if the ground strap is connected. I changed head gaskets years ago and the engine would not start. We discovered the ground strap was not connected. Just a thought - Good luck!!

 

[SNKEBIT]

check fuses and your cam sensor. Do you know how to correctly install it? It's not just a push in the hole and plug in the wire deal.

^^^^this^^^^

 

[plumcrazy]

check fuses and your cam sensor. Do you know how to correctly install it? It's not just a push in the hole and plug in the wire deal.

yup........

 

[Dan Cragin]

Are you sure the alarm i s not on? It will start and die.

Dan

 

[mrbob]

pulled out the cam sensor , looked fine may not have had it in far enough , bad news broke it removing it , have to get a new one . as far as the alarm on how do i reset it [ remove the battery cable? ] thanks to all

 

[Steve-Indy]

mrbob...sorry about the cam sensor...will add that I have heard of folks going through 3 of them before getting it right. Service Manual is pretty good on this issue.

What year Gen I ? Do your fobs work?

Reset of alarm (IF it is in shutdown) NOT so simple on 92's and 93's...can help you per PHONE if that is the issue AFTER you redo cam sensor.

 

[mrbob]

thanks steve , should have one i a few days , i will check the key fob tomorrow . it is a 94

 

[mrbob]

for everybody's information advance auto parts has gen#1 cam positioning sensors for $58. , thanks to all

 

[Jack B]

Just some more info - one of the ground wires for the O2's and ECU is attached to the engine at the front of the AC compressor. It originates at the back/bottom of the a/c compressor. That will give you some issues, but, it still should start. Have you used a scan tool, just because you do not have a SEL, does not mean you do not have a soft code in the ECU.

 

[mrbob]

not yet , waiting on the cam sensor . should be here in a day or so. still have to check the security system . thanks to all will let you all know what happens when i put in the sensor and try the key fob .

 

[Vic]

fuel pump relay plugged in?

 

[mrbob]

i can hear the pump run

 

[plumcrazy]

a call to chuck tator wouldnt be a bad idea...914-763-3136

 

[cfiiman]

a call to chuck tator wouldnt be a bad idea...914-763-3136

Wasn't he is out of the country right now for a couple weeks with the England club or something

 

[99 R/T 10]

Chuck is suppose to be back on Friday I think.

 

[mrbob]

steve indy you were right , took my key fob over to the car and disarmed the alarm and it started right up . thanks to all for the support . checked the wide band at idle it runs way rich and at part throttle 9 to 10 to 1 , mid rpm it is 13 to 14.8 to 1 and high rpm running lean 18 to 20 to 1 . have to do a vec 2 program . anyone have a starter program i could try . thanks again to all. mrbob

 

[speedracervr4]

I wouldn't drive it with it running that lean up top. Might have to send your cam/head specs to a tunner for a good base tune.

 

[Steve-Indy]

GOOD news, mrbob !!

Actually it was Dan Cragin (the ALL knowing founder/ head dude at DC Performance) who first mentioned the alarm as a possibility. One has to agree that this is a GREAT forum !!!