Race video of Lambo / Z06 / Viper / Supra

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Was a heavily modded Supra. I believe the Viper is modded as well by the way it spanks the Z06 the way it did from a roll. I own both a Z06 and a Viper and the Viper doesn't pull from a Z06 like that when they are both stock.
 

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Great Video! Did anyone notice that the Viper had a huge "hood gap" over the passenger side front wheel? That gap must be 1 or 2 inches.
 

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Great Video! Did anyone notice that the Viper had a huge "hood gap" over the passenger side front wheel? That gap must be 1 or 2 inches.

Either his hood aint latched down tight there, or, his front facsia is A.F.U.
 

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DUH, I am missing something here... I thought Gerald and Moundir got Busted for this? This week it is OK???

Shhhh- Looks like maybe DC has got its collective butt covered with that "closed course" disclaimer, in the title of the video link. Lets hope that suffices, so we can continue to enjoy great videos!
 

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Yeah, the site took it down for some reason. Odd. Anywhere, here is another link, but different video. I believe this is the same Supra -- somebody correct me if they know. Anyway, there are NO VIPERS in this video and it is not hosted on any viper site, so should be ok to link to it for gods sake. It's a Supra vs a GSXR 1000. Good video quality:

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sweet vid, I had this over a week ago and didnt know if I should share it or not. :cool:
 

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I've always wondered how the Lambo and Viper would match up. Looks pretty even although I agree that the Viper might be mod'd or the Z06 gave up early. That is one stinkin' fast Supra though!
 

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No NA street car is going to beat a Single Supra on race gas. I am not sure why the Supra driver was so surprised at beating the Lambo. It is stock... 121mph car. If the Supra was running race gas it would be about a 140mph car.

Very cool video though! Where are the SCed Viper guys? No fair racing a car with 15k-20k of mods versus a 2k in mods Viper. I want to see some pulls, SCed Viper Vs. Single Supra.
 
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Yeah, the VCA site administrator just removed the 2nd link as well. No video posting of this kind, even though the last one didn't even have vipers in it. Bummer.
 

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Superbar,

I watched the vid and that is exactly how a viper pulls on a zo6 when the race start at 50mph+ without the zo6 getting a jump. So if the Viper has any mods its just the basics, like exhaust, air filters.
 
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I would disagree with you Russ. I own two vipers and a Z06 currently. I have had them both on the road at the same time (me and a friend.) I have the slower Z06 (2001 year) against my Gen 1 Viper from a 60MPH roll in 3rd gear. The Viper has 3:55 gears as well. Both cars had K&amp;N but Viper had exhaust and Z06 was stock. We both punched it at exactly the same time (remember, these are both my cars.) We let off at about 110 MPH and the Viper had about 1 car on me (Viper rear bumber to Z06 front bumper.) My buddy driving the viper has extensive race experience, so no error on his part... plus it was a roll on the freeway, so he just stomped it, like I did.

Now, a Gen II has an extra 50HP, so perhaps that would make the difference (video is dead and I dont recall if it was a Gen I or II... I thought it was a Gen I. However, when you factor in the exhaust gain in HP on my Gen I, plus the 20HP gain on all other Z06's (minus 2001 year) you're talking about a difference of 10hp between the newer Z06's and the Gen II's. That isn't going to make all that much difference at a 50 or 60 MPH roll.
 

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The Viper was a gen 2 rt and considering the 7 or so mph difference in the 1/4 mile it should just walk a zo6. Gen 2 viper with minor mods will put down 410-420 rwhp, while a zo6 with the same minor mods is going to be 345-360 rwhp. So 55-60 hp and 130 lb's of torque is going to make a comparable zo6 look bad from a roll on.
 

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How painful. I'm in Santa Fe and have only a dial up modem.

I guess I'll watch it when I go home.

Moundir, maybe you should just set up a site and just everyone once and awhile say, "You guys should check my site" You obviously seem to have a lot of interest in this. The more you post and the more feedback (unfortunately negative is usually more painful, but more useful) you get the better they'll probably look.
 

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superbar -

My near stock GenII recently put down 420rwhp...how is that only a 10hp difference between that and a Z06? A factory stock GenII will put down 405-415rwhp from what I've seen...stock for stock again, how is that just a 10hp difference (now, I'll be the first to admit that I **** at the math so maybe I'm missing something here...)

Now granted there's about a 300lb difference between the cars which would attribute some to your Z06vsViper outcome, but with similar mods I'm pretty certain Z06s aren't putting down 410rwhp...

Matter of fact, I had my ZR1 down to dyno a few days after the Viper and it laid down 347rwhp...for kicks, the owner put his 2002 Z06 on the dyno right after to see how the 2 Z's stacked up (his also stock) and it laid down EXACTLY the same HP (347rwhp) as my ZR1, but substantially more TQ.

So it's more like a difference of 50-60hp...
 
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Look, I don't own a Gen II, and if that is what is in the video, then it's a moot point. I really didn't pay attention to what generation the car was and the video link is dead now.) All I know is that a Gen I barely walks my 2001 Z06. I'm not making this up -- I own both freakin' vehicles right now. I've raced them against each other from a roll. I'm not arguing horsepower here, I am just saying that in the race I was in, the Gen I viper barely beat the (gen I, so to speak) Z06. Barel. And my viper has exhaust mods (which the Z06 doesn't) and I outweighed the viper driver by about 50 pounds to boot.

And yes, the Vette weighing a few hundred pounds less should make a big difference. Would be like me racing my Z06 against another Z06 but adding a 200 pound passenger and 100 pounds of luggage in the trunk. Just going to be more sluggish.


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My near stock GenII recently put down 420rwhp...how is that only a 10hp difference between that and a Z06? A factory stock GenII will put down 405-415rwhp from what I've seen...stock for stock again, how is that just a 10hp difference (now, I'll be the first to admit that I **** at the math so maybe I'm missing something here...)

Now granted there's about a 300lb difference between the cars which would attribute some to your Z06vsViper outcome, but with similar mods I'm pretty certain Z06s aren't putting down 410rwhp...

Matter of fact, I had my ZR1 down to dyno a few days after the Viper and it laid down 347rwhp...for kicks, the owner put his 2002 Z06 on the dyno right after to see how the 2 Z's stacked up (his also stock) and it laid down EXACTLY the same HP (347rwhp) as my ZR1, but substantially more TQ.

So it's more like a difference of 50-60hp...
 

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Word from the Supra owner is the Viper has heads/cam.

Off all the races, the Supra only used his nitrous against the Viper. He did not use the juice against the Lambo.

Real good vid IMO. I think the Vipe pulled the Lambo good considering the difference in aero.
 

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ttbadboy, who is registered here but never posts can anwser all the questions, he has a t66 supra, a roe gts, and a 6.0vt lambo. and everytime i see him around he is driving his lightning truck :( ....joe, are you out there?
 

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superbar -

Gotcha - your previous post was misleading as you stated the difference between a GenII and a new Z06 is just 10hp so it was difficult to discern whether or not you meant GenI or GenII...


However, when you factor in the exhaust gain in HP on my Gen I, plus the 20HP gain on all other Z06's (minus 2001 year) you're talking about a difference of 10hp between the newer Z06's and the Gen II's.
 

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