Sorry to say it, but as much as I like Vipers....this is going to kick
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TCKTPLZ
Enthusiast
The ZO6 is no competition if the Viper uses tires from Olin Mott.
Craig 201 MPH
Enthusiast
DC should be begging to get Lutz back
FLX109
Enthusiast
I am going to the chevy dealer to look,
thats pretty sad that I am even thinking about it.
thats pretty sad that I am even thinking about it.
2MANYTOYS
Enthusiast
That car is sweet. I'm glad to see GM finally step up with a serious challenge. Usually they under deliver.
RCKTMN
Viper Owner
Hey all,
Just my .02, but I think it's great! I started my love for cars in the General's ranks - the Oldsmobile 4-4-2. This is the first Corvette that I would consider buying new, as I was barely walking when they made the last "ownable" one - 1971 or so.
Besides, competition breeds increased excellence from all who continue forward. And, not for nothing, how many of us Viper owners actually have 100% stock (mechanically speaking) cars anyways - excluding the great Wizard. Most of us are into performance, while not necessarily being brand loyal. I think that the best way to compare vehicles is both by their as-built characteristics, as well as their potential for "improvement". It's the sum of these that makes a vehicle worthwhile to buy. When recently shopping for my Durango, it was all about what could be done to it when under my care.
I have a 1994 RT/10 and while I would love for it to be the king (as it was in 1994), I would hope that all manufacturers get their money's worth from their engineering departments. Today's car should be more advanced than an 11 year old model.
I hope this doesn't ruffle anyone's feathers, as I think everyone I've met in the Viper Nation has been great. Just remember the one thing we have that the Z06, Ford GT, and others don't have...
The Viper that everyone stares at!!!!
Cruise On,
Paul
Just my .02, but I think it's great! I started my love for cars in the General's ranks - the Oldsmobile 4-4-2. This is the first Corvette that I would consider buying new, as I was barely walking when they made the last "ownable" one - 1971 or so.
Besides, competition breeds increased excellence from all who continue forward. And, not for nothing, how many of us Viper owners actually have 100% stock (mechanically speaking) cars anyways - excluding the great Wizard. Most of us are into performance, while not necessarily being brand loyal. I think that the best way to compare vehicles is both by their as-built characteristics, as well as their potential for "improvement". It's the sum of these that makes a vehicle worthwhile to buy. When recently shopping for my Durango, it was all about what could be done to it when under my care.
I have a 1994 RT/10 and while I would love for it to be the king (as it was in 1994), I would hope that all manufacturers get their money's worth from their engineering departments. Today's car should be more advanced than an 11 year old model.
I hope this doesn't ruffle anyone's feathers, as I think everyone I've met in the Viper Nation has been great. Just remember the one thing we have that the Z06, Ford GT, and others don't have...
The Viper that everyone stares at!!!!
Cruise On,
Paul
98MODMTR
Enthusiast
That car sounded down right mean! Looks Bad Ass to boot!
twinvipers
Enthusiast
I want one !!!
2BADD 4U
Enthusiast
I like a lot...it looks awesome...hmmmm now I need a bigger garage! Or maybe just a phone call to Heffner! 
Steve 00RT/10
Enthusiast
We were at the auto show last week end. IMO, from a styling standpoint, the Viper wins hands down(although I am still partial to the GenI,II cars). This video was sent to me the day it came out by........none other than my ZO6 occasional riding partner, along with a Viper Killer press release. I was not that impressed with the new Corvette look. From a performance standpoint, it appears Viper has some catching up to do. The new ZO6 has definitely raised the bar for street production performance. Perhaps that's the DC strategy....Instead of having to be first all the time..let the smoke clear on the ZO6 and then up the ante.
Personally I fear that with very stagnant SRT-10 sales, the new coupe must sell like hot cakes or Mercedes may not want to keep pumping money into the Viper brand. They have their own hi-performance arm which is likely much more profitable.
I hope I'm wrong.
For the masses driving down, or on the street, the new Corvette(C6 or ZO6)will still be one of hundreds of thousands of Corvettes. The Viper will still be the car that makes kids go slack jawed when you pass. There is something priceless about that.
Steve
Personally I fear that with very stagnant SRT-10 sales, the new coupe must sell like hot cakes or Mercedes may not want to keep pumping money into the Viper brand. They have their own hi-performance arm which is likely much more profitable.
I hope I'm wrong.
For the masses driving down, or on the street, the new Corvette(C6 or ZO6)will still be one of hundreds of thousands of Corvettes. The Viper will still be the car that makes kids go slack jawed when you pass. There is something priceless about that.
Steve
2MANYTOYS
Enthusiast
I agree. I can't wait for the first Z06 to jump me on the street. I'm gonna break his heart real BAD.
Simms
Enthusiast
Great car!
But still a Vette to me.
But still a Vette to me.
2MANYTOYS
Enthusiast
Don't forget to pat your roof as you blast away like the bro did to you in your Mazda.
LOL!! yea he hurt my feelings. It still ****** me off 18 years later.
That car is awesome....damn it.
LMFAO - did everyone notice they still had to say the word VIPER!!!! it really
seems to me all compare their cars against the VIPER. what GM has done to the
Z06 is great ( no arguement there ), motor is just awesome. as far as what it
does on the track, lets see - i dont see this as being all so powerful over the
VIPER. performance of new Z06 against the SRT is very very very close, the
driver can make a huge difference as well.
BUT THE LOOKS OF THE Z06 COMPARED WITH THE SRT/10 RAGTOP OR COUPE ----
LMFAOROTF - IT DOES NOT EVEN COME CLOSE AND I AM REALLY SURPRIZED TO EVEN
HAVE TO SAY THIS. FOR ALL WHO WANT ONE, WHEN YOU GET IT CALL ME
BECAUSE I'M READY TO WHIP YOUR ARSS. Z06 VETTE BETTER THEN A
VIPER (GIVE ME A FRICKEN BREAK) IT IS ONE FUGLY LOOKING PIECE
OF CRAP IN MY EYE'S AND IF YOU GET ONE I HAVE NO PROBLEM
TELLING YOU THIS FACE TO FACE - SPEAKING OF FACE THAT YELLOW
VETTE LOOKS JUST LIKE A SMILELY FACE
AS FOR MYSELF - I'LL JUST STAY WITH A VIPER WHILE SOME OF YOU GOING RUNNING
AND SPENDING ON A GREAT AD ( GM MUST BE LAUGHING ON THE SALES
PITCH THEY HAVE YOU SWALLOWING ) I KNOW I AM!!!!!!
HEY DONT FORGET CALL ME WHEN YOU GET IT, I'LL BE RIGHT HERE (VCA)
JUST MY OWN OPINION ALL. BUY WHAT YOU WANT, I'M IN NO WAY BRAND LOYAL, JUST
NEVER SEEN A CAR THAT DOES MORE FOR ME THEN A VIPER, NO MATTER WHAT GENERATION.
one thing everyone is not realizing is all they did to get 500HP and 475TQ is mod it at GM 3 inch exhaust,HF cats,HF filters,1.8 rockers,heads,cam,Headers ect.
So basicly when they get that cars its basicly just a modded vette from the factory, what company coulden't do that??
D.C can just put B&B headers and exhaust on ever SRT right?
then they can do jessel rockers right??
the fact is its just a modded z06 the fact that Gm is the ones who mod it means nothing, as a matter of fact its pretty sad it seems they actually cut down the power from the old z06 if you think about it because if you took an older z06 and added headers,rockers,exhaust,HF cats, HF filters and better heads (all in which they have done to this new z06) you would have over 500hp.
I don't think Luts did too much with that car, all he did was come up with the idea that since people mod them anyway lets just do the mods ourselves and sell it for 75K.
Ohh wait and he did the NACA duct idea as well big deal.
Don't get me wrong im impressed with the specs but when you look at how they had to get those specs (by mods)
Besides with all the mods done what fun is it?? what mods can they (they being owners of the new vette) do?? compression is wayy to high for forced induction so they would have to swap heads to lower it but what sense does that make when the heads GM put on it and high flow?
guess just NOS.
I'll stick with my snake.
So basicly when they get that cars its basicly just a modded vette from the factory, what company coulden't do that??
D.C can just put B&B headers and exhaust on ever SRT right?
then they can do jessel rockers right??
the fact is its just a modded z06 the fact that Gm is the ones who mod it means nothing, as a matter of fact its pretty sad it seems they actually cut down the power from the old z06 if you think about it because if you took an older z06 and added headers,rockers,exhaust,HF cats, HF filters and better heads (all in which they have done to this new z06) you would have over 500hp.
I don't think Luts did too much with that car, all he did was come up with the idea that since people mod them anyway lets just do the mods ourselves and sell it for 75K.
Ohh wait and he did the NACA duct idea as well big deal.
Don't get me wrong im impressed with the specs but when you look at how they had to get those specs (by mods)
Besides with all the mods done what fun is it?? what mods can they (they being owners of the new vette) do?? compression is wayy to high for forced induction so they would have to swap heads to lower it but what sense does that make when the heads GM put on it and high flow?
guess just NOS.
I'll stick with my snake.
Ulysses
Enthusiast
The car sounds good. Looks are so-so, but then again, so is the new coupe. I would make room for the Z06 because it makes a compelling case for the price. Wonder what the GR-1 will cost.
Torquemonster
Enthusiast
arrrrmmmmmmm
pssssst
its 427 cubic inches not the old 5.7 liter engine.
Being 7 liters probably has something to do with the 500hp and it'll make a LOT more than that with all the race parts available already off the shelf. The proposed Australian road 427 engine developed 635hp+ in trials.
DC needs to get its hemi heads onto 500 cubic inches of V10, make them breathe - and THEN the upgraed Viper will run the GM and Blue Oval boys back into the corner they came from... otherwise the Viper is going to get its butt kicked every which way
Chuck 98 RT/10
Enthusiast
LOL. Bastage.
AHH!!! Ha! ha! Olin Mott! bee-dee---bee--dee--bee--dee!
Blade Runner
Enthusiast
When you see one in the rear view mirror it will look like the Gen 3's.
Long live the original body style.
Long live the original body style.
Can't argue with the Chevy's great performance but you'll still see billions and billions of them on the road. That's enough right there to keep me very happy with the SC'd performance and looks of my '02. I agree with Simms post earlier.
kARLUG
Enthusiast
Great car, great price but it will never match the exotic character of the viper. The car attracts so much attention and conversation that it can almost be embarassing at times.
The Viper is the "best bang for the buck" for a true exotic car. Do the proper mods and don't worry about Corvettes.
The Viper is the "best bang for the buck" for a true exotic car. Do the proper mods and don't worry about Corvettes.
Ulysses
Enthusiast
At the price point a Z06 sells at, you won't see a lot of them. More than the Viper, probably, but not as much as the standard Vette.
viper GTS-R
Enthusiast
It's funny it really is...
Stock vipers run 11's right? Well why complain about the ZO6 beating the new coupe. There is none it is a viper with a v-10. How many people are really gonna get a stock Z06 from GM? We don't know but I get the feeling a stock C6 with ZO6 parts is going to be easier and that's what most people are going to do. Build their own to there liking.
Stock vipers run 11's right? Well why complain about the ZO6 beating the new coupe. There is none it is a viper with a v-10. How many people are really gonna get a stock Z06 from GM? We don't know but I get the feeling a stock C6 with ZO6 parts is going to be easier and that's what most people are going to do. Build their own to there liking.
Craig 201 MPH
Enthusiast
HUH?
Both the SRT-10/SRT-gts and Z06 are bland looking cars. Performance and price edge goes to the vette.
Therfor Z06 > Viper
I really HATE to say it because im a viper lover to the death but hes right the gen 3's and the new z06 are both bland cars.
But as far as performance goes we'll see about that D.C has something up their sleeve just wait and see.
Vic
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Fastest car ever made by GM, over 190mph top speed, sub 12 second 1/4 mile, sub 4 second 0-60, 6 piston calipers up front, dry-sump. Damm, thats about a freekin race car! Those kind of specs are like as if we are talking about a Viper or something. With a lower price than a Viper, this car will sell well, ugly or not, and spread development costs over a higher model run.
The Viper can do that or better with its current engine, if DC would "add lightness".
The Viper can do that or better with its current engine, if DC would "add lightness".
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