Street Racing in AZ = 6 mos jail time & BIG fines

[SUN RA KAT]

What happens if it's a person racing on the street while doing an illegal immigration?

 

[Eddie N]

good idea..jail street racers as long as rapists and armed robbers..

i guess the only way to catch the terrorists and put them in jail is to coax them into a street race in AZ..

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"Drag racing is like carrying a loaded gun in your hands," Foster said. "This has got to stop."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i have an idea...how about catching the real criminals driving around with loaded guns in their hands?

- eddie -

 

[SmokinV10]

ANOTHER REASON TO WAR ****** LIBERALS WHO TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHTS AND PUT THEM IN THE HANDS OF THE GESTAPO!!!!!!! WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR

 

[Elite1]

"Drag racing is like carrying a loaded gun in your hands," Foster said.

That statement can be ade for anyone sitting behind the wheel! PERIOD.

Anything can be a loaded weapon... I can't tell you how many times I was nicked with a baseball bat when I was catching in HS baseball. Now that baseball is falling out of favor perhaps now is the time to outlaw the use of baseball bats in general.

"Swinging a baseball bat is like carrying a loaded gun in your hands, " Ted said.

See how stupid that sounds but I bet some yahoo liberal is going to run with that now. Its easy to declare anything dangerous. Two words, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!

 

[SmokinV10]

SOLUTION: Put all liberals in a gigantic steel box and throw it in the pacific ocean................and sink it.

 

[BUD]

LOL!! Quit insulting the Gestapo. These are ****** KGB tactics. The commies did, and still do more damage than **** Germany ever did. WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SmokinV10:
ANOTHER REASON TO WAR ****** LIBERALS WHO TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHTS AND PUT THEM IN THE HANDS OF THE GESTAPO!!!!!!! WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR

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[BUD]

Figures, a DemoCRAP, er I mean Democrat is behind it.

 

[Shakin Snake]

What amazes me and I live here, is that the penalty for the first time drag racing offender has been increased to six months in jail and a $2500 fine from four months in jail and $750 fine. I was not aware of the old 4 month jail penalty for drag racing.

Does this go along with other states on the severity. I really kind of doubt it. Racers beware in Arizona.

 

[King GTS]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SmokinV10:
I beleive the constitution says something about "Cruel and unusual punishment". So if some yahoo uneducated pig decides to give you a bogus ticket because he is jealous of your car, you might spend 6 months in jail? Instead of just putting the word out, someone should have the state congressman who proposed this idea jailed!!

WAR GESTAPO TACTICS AND PIGS!!!!

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I'm wit him!!

 

[GTS Bruce]

I think street racing on public roads should be punished with maximum penalties.There are many places to go "racing" that do not endanger the public.A quick high speed drive by a competent individual in a competent vehicle Should receive a warning or slap on the hands at most.When at speed on a 2 lane or highway I am hyper aware of all the surroundings.Not just looking at the other car and jamming gears while possibly being druged or drunked up and showing off.BTW I often carry a loaded weapon and consider it to be no danger at all compared to driving at speed on public roads. Bruce

 

[jimandela]

I wish I could get local channels from AZ!!!
wow!! what great TV this is going to be ...
A live high speed chase every night!
Are you going to pull over knowing full well your going to jail to have bad things done to you

NO! your going to run like hell and hope you get away.
Why?
you have nothing to lose your going to jail anyway!!!!
even if you don't have a parking ticket on your record first offense 6 months?
who to say I am racing is there a flag waving

marking beginning and end of the race?
***! ***! ***!!!

I am not a large guy only 5'-10" and I am not going to jail for street driving which some cop may think is a race with out a flight.

I would be take off to 170mph and let him try to catch me in a high speed pursuit of which will bring in high TV ratings.

Unreal! Unreal!
NOT WAR!
But it is time for Rebellion. If we spill a little Patriot

blood for freedom it is worth it!

I am all American and usually not anti-government but this is just ridiculous.

God bless my Freedom fighting AZ VCA brothers.
be careful and good luck
JIM

 

[-RUNNR]

Draggin in AZ will apparently make you live in Sherrif Joe's tent city, wearing pink underwear, and eatting ostrich...

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Nothing like the punishment fitting the crime.

I'm not condoning street racing but if a couple cars light 'em up on a clear road what's the big deal?

Hell with it all. Outlaw everything!!!

 

[TOOOFST]

The auto industry keeps engineering faster cars and paying more in national taxes keeping the nation alive.The political pricks are bitting the hand that feeds with these new laws and getting away with it,working boths sides.I don't agree with racing in traffic,but letting a bunch of kids run em at 2am for a few bucks is the lesser of evils,along with ChuckO 98 R/T Word.
I guess they feel like a genius,since they can't catch the killers,rapists,and kidnappers.

 

[Marv S]

<FONT COLOR="Red"> New AZ law gets tough on Street Racing - click here for story </FONT c>

Spotted this in the paper this am....

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<FONT COLOR="Blue">criminal penalties for drag-racing = six months in jail and a $2,500 fine 1st time.

Do it twice within two years and you could spend a year in jail, pay a $150,000 fine or both.

"Drag racing is like carrying a loaded gun in your hands," Foster said. "This has got to stop."

Welch's oldest sister, Karen, welcomed the new laws and hopes they can be a deterrent.

"I hope people realize this has serious ramifications," she said. "We need to get the word out about the new laws."</FONT c>

Kind of took me by surprise. I thought the WORST penalty here for drag racing (if there was no accident/injuries) was called "Exhibition Of Speed" or "Reckless Driving" and got a person an instant 8 points on their license. (8 points is the threshold for license suspension). Had never heard there was any jail time involved.

<FONT COLOR="#ff0000" SIZE="1" FACE="Verdana, Arial">This message has been edited by Marv S on 08-31-2002 at 11:12 PM</font>

 

[SmokinV10]

I beleive the constitution says something about "Cruel and unusual punishment". So if some yahoo uneducated pig decides to give you a bogus ticket because he is jealous of your car, you might spend 6 months in jail? Instead of just putting the word out, someone should have the state congressman who proposed this idea jailed!!

WAR GESTAPO TACTICS AND PIGS!!!!

 

[Sonny 00 GTS ACR]

ViperDays is having a race on "the Streets of Putnam Park" September 13th, 14th, and 15th. No Cops.

 

[V10 MOJO]

street racing is not as unsafe as police high speed pursuits. it took the death of this lady's nephew for her to act out vs street racing, otherwise she would probably not have been so feverent in pursuing these tough laws. it was a personal vendetta, too bad we cant get bureaucrats to do the same vs high speed police pursuits.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rdustman:
street racing is not as unsafe as police high speed pursuits.

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I'd like to know how many of these high speed pursuits involve murderers, ****** and thieves, and how many of them involve some kid doing a burnout or speeding.

Even if they are chasing truly dangerous criminals I have two questions for them. 1. Why are the dangerous criminals out of jail in the first place? 2. Why bother chasing them and endangering everyone around when all they do is put them on house arrest or maybe a couple years in jail?

 

[V10 MOJO]

Chuck 98 RT10; Exactly!

 

[Tiepilot]

Georgia Law now reads that Racing on the Streets (first offense) is a MANDANTORY Habitual Violator status, with up to 12 months in jail and a $1500 to $3000 fine (tax).
HV means you LOOSE your license to drive for a period of 5 years

, this also means that if you are caught driving during this 5 year period you are charged with a FELONY for operating a motor vehicle and face 5 years in a Georgia Prison.

I was arrested in 1980 for drag racing my '70 440 Dodge Charger RT, watched the wrecker driver's buddy drive my car away to the impound lot while I was handcuffed in the backseat of a patrol car.
My Fine (tax) $360.00, one night in jail (waiting for Dad to bail me out) and $200.00 for the Attourney. I learned a lesson and quit (for the most part).

Things were different when I was a kid.

The penalty phase written into the Law also gives a wide berth to the Judge during sentencing.
In GA law there is a written provision that states: The Judge at His or Her sole discretion may impose all or part of a sentence (not exact wording but close enough).

I think the MAKERS (career politicians ******* for votes) of these ridiculous penalties are the ones that should garner most of your written angst not the Cops. However, if it were my Son involved I'd much rather visit him in Jail than visit his Gravesite.

Strong deterrents are in place to try and keep people alive. If you know that the penalty for street racing is imprisonment and revoked driving privileges for years (possibly) aren't you just plain dumb to do it? If you do get caught who's fault is it? Little hint: it ain't the Cop's fault.

Race at the TRACK or go to jail, sounds pretty simple and straight forward.

 

[Vreracing]

As far as high speed pursuits. My guess is that in most cases if you don't catch them for that crime, you'll probably catch them later.

As far as "spirited driving" causing accidents. It probably does a little, but not anywhere near the rate people think it does.

Shear neglect and inattention is responsible for a far greater number.

It's real easy to posture on an issue. Its pretty hard to gather reliable data to make informed decisions.

 

[BUD]

Why was the word Naz1 edited in my post, when the ****** KGB part was not? Communists have killed WAY more than Naz1s ever did. If you are gonna be censors, censor fairly!!! It seems we have some Gestapo-KGB types right here on our board! <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BUD:
LOL!! Quit insulting the Gestapo. These are ****** KGB tactics. The commies did, and still do more damage than **** Germany ever did. WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR
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[Paul Hawker]

Six people have died street racing so far this year in San Diego. Week ago a kid and his GF took out a tree and disintegrated their "racer". Kid was well known, however Girl friend was rendered unrecognizable. Dental records used to identify her as another girl got out at the last minute because She was scared.

Street racing here has grown to a fantastic level with hundreds of cars and spectators enjoying the thrill, however it has also grown out of control and irresponsible.

A cocktail of inexperienced drivers, ******, Alcohol, and some really fast cars with no safety equipment, on city streets, has gone way over the edge.
Think twice about street racing...while you may have the skills, equipment, and experience to pull it off, the guy in the car next to you may not.
Drive safetly out there.

 

[BUD]

LOL, Yep! Political correctness at it's finest. Let see: Communism killed at least 100 million, Facism less than 1/2 that. Yet all we see on A&E are Holocaust documentaries. Wonder why? <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hotwax:

Hey Bud, maybe you can use the word "facist" instead. It's all the same.

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[REDSLED]

Hey BUD, why the "88"? The eighth letter of the alphabet?

 

[SmokinV10]

** <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Paul Hawker:
Six people have died street racing so far this year in San Diego. Week ago a kid and his GF took out a tree and disintegrated their "racer". Kid was well known, however Girl friend was rendered unrecognizable. Dental records used to identify her as another girl got out at the last minute because She was scared.

Street racing here has grown to a fantastic level with hundreds of cars and spectators enjoying the thrill, however it has also grown out of control and irresponsible.

A cocktail of inexperienced drivers, ******, Alcohol, and some really fast cars with no safety equipment, on city streets, has gone way over the edge.
Think twice about street racing...while you may have the skills, equipment, and experience to pull it off, the guy in the car next to you may not.
Drive safetly out there.

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Dog Barker,
Seems to me that you are so friggen old and geriatric that you no longer need the civil liberties afforded by our constituion. You take one unfortunate incident to go and justify the barbarism being imposed by some liberal yahoo that you probably are "chummy" with. So after you are done changing your depends, and kissing trees, why dont you go and kiss that politician? You deserve each other. Oh wait that politician is female, you dont swing that way. Street racing may be wrong, but two wrongs dont make a right. Liberal aoways seem to think they do though.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Capital punishment for street racing would be a huge deterrent and would probably be somewhat effective, but that doesn’t mean it’s FAIR punishment.

As if the cops aren’t on a big enough power trip now, can you imagine if they had the power to sentence you to death for street racing? As it stands now they can blow your head off and make excuses later.

 

[V10 MOJO]

whew , this is ready for the snake pit

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TallRob:
The street racer is being prosecuted for manslaughter and will do some serious hard time. I hope he dies in jail.
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I understand 100%. I know full well what you're going through, But we have laws on the books that need to be enforced. We don't need any more laws.

But if the street racer was drunk he'll probably get six months house arrest and a few years probation.