THE LAST VIPER
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PatentLaw
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It should have been red. Like the first ones.
Out with a whimper, with no nod to heritage.
Out with a whimper, with no nod to heritage.
big-n-italian
Enthusiast
i'm sorry, but the interior and the exterior are BOTH fug-ly.
BTW - they dont have 40 vipers, they now have 50. i was told they order ten 2010 cars.
BTW - they dont have 40 vipers, they now have 50. i was told they order ten 2010 cars.
VIPER GTSR 91
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Well said, its ugly but some Pontiac Aztek lover will buy it. Wonder if they got the paint right on this one.For the last one, that is one ugly color. Sorry, just my opinion. I can see that color on a Mercury Marquis, but not a Viper. Good thing they have so many other ones so they don't have to look at this one as often...
No camera can do justice to a color like that.
Will have to see it in person to decide.
It may be outstanding!!
Will have to see it in person to decide.
It may be outstanding!!
jerseydave
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WOW! That car wasn't touched by the ugly branch-it was BEAT DOWN by the whole forrest!!
jknappster
Enthusiast
Just shows how much there're out of touch.
"Out of Touch"? Maybe, but I like to think of them as "Visionaries". Owning 40+ Vipers makes them my Hero's. And a woman @ that. Bet she can drive circles around most.Talk about supporting the Viper Nation.
V
Venomiss
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Well put. The stripes are incredible up close. From far away it resembles snakeskin but it is not.
Roy
Enthusiast
If you own every color combo there is, I can imagine somebody chooses a color like this...
PatentLaw
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Just because someone might like a certain style does not mean
that is will be warmly accepted by everyone.
When dealing with the last of the line, heritage should come into it in my opinion, not the latest fashion trend.
They went overboard.
Wow I don't think they could have created a more ugly Viper for the last one. Earth tones do not belong on sports cars. The interior is a serious case of bad taste.
The last VIPER should not have been determined by a couple with too much money and no taste or sense of VIPER history.
The last one should have been a solid RED ACR with a red stitched black interior to bookend the history of the VIPER and be sitting in the Chrysler museum.
Sad way to end a great American icon. I guess that is what you get when Dodge is owned by Fiat.
You screwed the pooch Ralph. Shame on you. You should have honored the history of the VIPER and it's
origin.
The last VIPER should not have been determined by a couple with too much money and no taste or sense of VIPER history.
The last one should have been a solid RED ACR with a red stitched black interior to bookend the history of the VIPER and be sitting in the Chrysler museum.
Sad way to end a great American icon. I guess that is what you get when Dodge is owned by Fiat.
You screwed the pooch Ralph. Shame on you. You should have honored the history of the VIPER and it's
origin.
IF there is a Gen V it will not have a V10 in it so it won't be a VIPER. However, my opinion is that there will be NO more VIPERS period.
Mopar Boy
Enthusiast
To clarify things, it was D'ann's color choice. She purchased the last Viper (gen 4) built. It was her choice, not Dodge's.
As for the car, looks really good in person. Not so much on the line, but outside in the sun....
Remember what everyone said about snakeskin green when it first came out....
As for the car, looks really good in person. Not so much on the line, but outside in the sun....
Remember what everyone said about snakeskin green when it first came out....
Aren't the new Lambos a V-10, the Audi R8s as well as a few other cars in development? Why does everyone think the V-10 has to go? It may be a V-10 with overhead cams but I am fairly confident that if there is a new Viper, it will have a V-10 in it. Pretty sure though that it will not be a pushrod V-10. If they dial in the electronics however, it could be real fun.
As far as the colors here on this car. To each their own. The seats look fun though as I think they grabbed every left over piece of leather and stiched the seat together like a patch quilt. However, we have to thank her for her support. I don't think this particular Viper will make my wish list. Now the Silver with Blue Stripes 10' Coupe in some of the other pictures............ most definitely
As far as the colors here on this car. To each their own. The seats look fun though as I think they grabbed every left over piece of leather and stiched the seat together like a patch quilt. However, we have to thank her for her support. I don't think this particular Viper will make my wish list. Now the Silver with Blue Stripes 10' Coupe in some of the other pictures............ most definitely
Mopar Boy
Enthusiast
Starting uploading... Here are pics outside.
And comparing to yellow.....
And comparing to yellow.....
vancouver-gts
Viper Owner
Not so sure about that
altough ,look how long it took to bring the Challenger back 
here's my 72 Challenger that I bought new .When the last Challenger were made in 1974 ,I never thought there will be a resurrection!
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1. The Gen V will have a V10.
2. I believe a considerable amount of work has already been done on the Gen V or Dodge/Chrysler would not have directly/indirectly solicited so much input from us over the past months.
3. As good as the SRT8 products are, they are not Halo cars in the true sense of the word. To allow Ford to have a powerful Mustang and GM to have the Corvette in all its iterations, without Dodge having a Viper, would be a huge marketing mistake. Many Viper owners bought other Chrysler products solely because of the Viper.
4. If I was Dodge, I would do the following:
A. Make the design a bit more curvy and make sure it cannot be confused with a Z06 Vette by oncoming Vette owners.
B. Increase the power to 700HP on the streetable versions. Perhaps more on the off road versions.
C. Produce the car in five versions: Street, ADR ( American Drag Racer - drivable on the street but also good at the strip), ADRX ( an American Drag Racer for offroad use only),ACR, and ACRX.
D. Make sure that the tranny gearing allows for peak standing mile performance or have optional gearing available for same.
E. Make sure the car is wired for options and offer options for those who want them.
F. Make sure it comes in Black because I will want one.
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MoparMan
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Agree completely. Great ideas in 4A through 4F. Even if they don't make an "ADR" they definitely need to look at optional gearing in the diff and an optional Quaiffe unit. Personally, I'd like numerically higher gears but more in the range of a 3.33 or maybe the old Mopar standby of 3.23.
Just make it mod friendly. Make it base type model. Work with tuners on the computer so they can tune easily with aftermarket mods. Don't do it for me. Let me choose my upgrades. Just give me the platform to do it. There is a reason gen ii are loved. Easily modded. Stock is never an option. Look at the limited number of modded gen 4 vs the others. When I say modded, I mean turbo or sc.
Mod friendly is not enough. Tuner cars are, with exceptions, not well balanced from an engineering point of view. The ACR was a screaming success. The ACRX output was doubled from the original allotment. I believe that an ADR and ADRX would also sell well. There are many people who will not go to a tuner. They want a balanced, fully warranted piece from the factory. We need those people to buy Vipers. Without them, in these economic times, selling the production of the car to the powers that be inside Chrysler will be tough.
ghengishahn
Viper Owner
I'd qualify it as the ugliest production Viper ever. I have seen some really ugly custom paint. Like this one on the forums.
I have always classified the soft gold to tan metallics as "metallic dirt" for those that never want or do wash a car. Gold is not an in your face color and the stripes only interrupt the blandness.
Photog1
Enthusiast
Wow I don't think they could have created a more ugly Viper for the last one. Earth tones do not belong on sports cars. The interior is a serious case of bad taste.
The last VIPER should not have been determined by a couple with too much money and no taste or sense of VIPER history.
The last one should have been a solid RED ACR with a red stitched black interior to bookend the history of the VIPER and be sitting in the Chrysler museum.
Sad way to end a great American icon. I guess that is what you get when Dodge is owned by Fiat.
You screwed the pooch Ralph. Shame on you. You should have honored the history of the VIPER and it's
If you can't say anything nice why don't you not say anything at all!
These people are friends of mine and the nicest people you would want to meet. Thanks to people like the Rau's Viper has a lot better chance of having a Gen 5 built. 
What is it that you are doing for Viper? NOTHING but stupid negative comments about great people like the Rau's, Ralph, and Fiat. People like them will be a big reason that Viper will continue.
Although I agree the V needs to be relevant to the brand,I doubt under the current adminstration we will see 700HP cars off the line in the future....the ongoing trend appears to be the use of light composites as the force equalizer for power/weight ratios...
Light composites cost too much and involve other cost ineffective issues for a mass produced car in the Viper price range. I believe that we will see a steel frame again. ( Personally, I prefer it.) I also do not see carbon fiber body panels. The current engine, without too much change, or with the addition of a 4 or 5 pound twin screw supercharger like the ZR1 has, can be tweaked to produce 700 HP in such a manner as to be durable and reliable. The real issue is the design. Based on the hundreds of posts on this Forum since the Gen III came out mourning the loss of curves, my money is on a Gen V that, as I stated above, will be a bit more curvy than the Gen III and IV. Why? Simple. I never read a post by a Gen III or IV owner badmouthing the Gen II look. ( Although I have on occasion referred to it as a clown shoe.LOL) At most, one would post that he or she liked their Gen III better. Based on this, Dodge would be silly to ignore the feelings of the pro curve people.
