Viper Nitrous Kit Input

[racetested]

Hello,
My name is Denny and I am the nitrous tuner and provider for Scotty "Too Fast". There seems to be more interest in Viper kits so I wanted you the owners input on what is wanted for a nitrous kit. My view is you guys spend a lot of money and hard work on your cars, so you should have the best on/in them. Here are my ideas.

1) Basic kit to deliver 150+ bhp(solenoids can be adjusted to flow more): Includes our 300i kit along with our single billet bottle bracket, fuel test port valve removal tool for a fuel supply, "TOO FAST" microswitch bracket for a clean and easy installation. price should be around $1k.
NOTE: Dual bottles are recommended if going over 100-150 bhp to maintain a more consistent bottle pressure.

2) Upgrade kit to deliver 300-500+hp: Includes kit above plus, dual billet bracket, dual bottles, two sets of solenoids and needed injectors. This kit may not be as common so we'll have to price it as a kit if there is enough interest.

I hope to have input as we want to meet your needs. Our goal is not to have top sales but to provide 100% satisfaction to each customer on an individual basis. All products carry a Lifetime Warranty for original purchaser. Plus we don't sell solenoid rebuild kits as they will not wear out in your lifetime. If there is a problem we'll fix it or replace the solenoid for free.

www.racetested.com

 

[TOOOFST]

Denny post the pics of the parts,they are the absolute BEST quality nitrous parts ever made.No other nitrous solinoids pulse on their own for safety of your motor.Looks and quality of materials tells the story.
NX and NOS solinoids which i've used for 20yrs have serious problems with Temp,bottle pressure,dirt particals and plunger wear and tear.
Those of you considering nitrous,spend a couple hundred more for this kit,you bought a viper not a vette.

 

[racetested]

Scotty,
Thanks as always for the support. There are pictures of everything on our website.

I hope to get some more feedback as we are here to give you the best products and wanted to get some opinions on what you would like besides FREE stuff.

I know we have an uphill battle as NX and NOS are the big names in nitrous. Although this is the way we like it as we love outperforming people with a "much" bigger investment in marketing to compensate for lack of product quality and knowledge. People may say their existing nitrous kits perform very well, but this is because they've never had anyhing better to compare to. Our deep passion for making and delivering the best is often confused with arrogance, but that's just who we are. We believe our attention to detail, qaulity, and service will more than speak for itself.

 

[Roadkill]

Racetested, check your private messages..

 

[1BADSNK]

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TOOFST,
What have you done to your car as far as mods go to get those dyno #'s w/NOS? Also what year car do you have? Do you have forged or cast pistons? That's the kind of #'s I am looking for on the NOS w/my 2002 GTS.

 

[racetested]

Mike,
Here is the gallery for Scotty's car and his mods. The bottom end is stock and as far as I know in 99 the pistons were cast. Plus Scotty converted to only using our solenoids. We have areas of the original install to address to pick up even more power.

http://www.racetested.com/rt/gallery_99viper.php?osCsid=88875873c3a4b78335535a19b192b5b2

 

[BigCarrot]

99 pistons are forged.

 

[2BADD 4U]

Hello,
My name is Denny and I am the nitrous tuner and provider for Scotty "Too Fast". There seems to be more interest in Viper kits so I wanted you the owners input on what is wanted for a nitrous kit. My view is you guys spend a lot of money and hard work on your cars, so you should have the best on/in them. Here are my ideas.

1) Basic kit to deliver 150+ bhp(solenoids can be adjusted to flow more): Includes our 300i kit along with our single billet bottle bracket, fuel test port valve removal tool for a fuel supply, "TOO FAST" microswitch bracket for a clean and easy installation. price should be around $1k.
NOTE: Dual bottles are recommended if going over 100-150 bhp to maintain a more consistent bottle pressure.

2) Upgrade kit to deliver 300-500+hp: Includes kit above plus, dual billet bracket, dual bottles, two sets of solenoids and needed injectors. This kit may not be as common so we'll have to price it as a kit if there is enough interest.

I hope to have input as we want to meet your needs. Our goal is not to have top sales but to provide 100% satisfaction to each customer on an individual basis. All products carry a Lifetime Warranty for original purchaser. Plus we don't sell solenoid rebuild kits as they will not wear out in your lifetime. If there is a problem we'll fix it or replace the solenoid for free.

www.racetested.com

What are the guidelines for gen 1 and gen 2 ...for cast vs forged pistons?

Dave

 

[racetested]

I have never taken a Viper to it's limits to have exact guidlines. I can say our SRT-4 customer is pushing at least 150 hp(with intercooling effect)on a stock motor, turbo, etc. and doing 11 second 1/4's with only nitrous and an exhaust. All on a 4 cylinder and trouble free so far. Plus all the cars on our site and many other customers push 100-150 hp regularly on motors at least half the size of a Viper motor.

Now we should all know forged pistons can handle more than cast. But the size of a Viper motor allows mass amounts of nitrous as you have so many cylinders and cubic inches to distribute to. I would be willing to say that a stock Viper motor with cast pistons could handle 400-500 bhp of nitrous with our kit, if tuned properly and the right amount of retard was added as the nitrous power level increased. You'd be amazed at how much a motor can handle as long as you control timing and detonation.Problem is you have other things to consider then just the motor. Clutch, trans, traction, etc.

So for many of you our base kit that Scotty runs(his numbers are posted in the gallery)will most likely be sufficient and very safe on a cast or forged piston motor.

My info is based on a good motor. If the Viper motors are known to have trouble then that is a different story. From what I have been told the Viper motor is reliable and strong so there should be no issues. I'm open to other information if I'm wrong.

 

[PRVT JET]

Tooofst has a stock motor except for 1.7 rockers. he is the master of nitrous. I got his old system, and I love it. My car made 534 rwhp/ 624 rwtq with a 100 shot. My mods are full exhaust and 1.7 rockers and was running off the chart rich. I will post pics later.

Isaac

 

[MichaelP]

PVT Jet I take it the 11.9 in your sig is before you had the nitrous correct?

 

[racetested]

Just a reminder. We are getting a few failed e-mail addresses when replying to inquiries. Could people double check their addresses or include a number with the e-mail.

If you have not heard from us it's because your e-mail was not accepting our reply. So please contact us again with additional contact info.

There is a picture of the kit we are providing on the site now. An upgrade kit with dual bottles, dual billet bracket, and extra lines/fittings needed will be listed soon.

 

[MichaelP]

Race,

Thanks for the info.

What is the difference between the 100 - 150 HP kit here:

http://www.racetested.com/rt/product_info.php?products_id=40&osCsid=082afa65d145e1ce1c8ba3879d247bdd

and the 100 -150 HP kit here: http://www.racetested.com/rt/product_info.php?products_id=1&osCsid=082afa65d145e1ce1c8ba3879d247bdd

Besides one is for the Viper and the $300 price difference?

Also have you come up with a price yet for the 300 - 500 HP kit you talked about in your first post?

Thank you.

 

[racetested]

Michael,

The differences between the two kits you mentioned is the Viper kit includes our billet bracket, additional x-fire injector, TOOFAST microswitch bracket, braided line, and additional hardware.

The Viper kit for $1,000 can produce the numbers given for Scotty's car on a dyno(200+rwhp and 300+ rwtq). But on a dyno you only activate the nitrous for a small fraction of time. If you were to run a 1/4 mile with one 10 lb. bottle the pressure drop "could" be enough to produce half the given power than on a dyno. This is why I rate the base Viper kit with a single bottle for 150bhp but it can make more if set up correctly. Our 150i kit for $699 is designed to flow up to 150 bhp with a single injector and that's it.

Now if people just wanted a kit with the standard coated steel brackets the price will be $850 instead of $1,000. You would essentially be getting our 300i kit with the addition of the TOOFAST bracket for an easy and clean microswitch install.

I'm just throwing options and ideas on what "I" think you guys want. If you rather have me supply the kit with a coated steel bottle bracket and bring the price down then I will. I won't know though unless I get feedback.

A kit to make 300-500 hp would be about $1850 with dual billet bracket. If there is serious interest in this I will have more specific details and pricing upon request You would definitely need a Maximiser(+$650), fuel pump(?$), and maybe an ignition retard unit along with aftermarket ignition($350+). Not to mention some serious suspension work to handle the power.