Speedfreak
Viper Owner
As a relative newcomer to the Viper world I have been watching this with interest. I really don't have an ax to grind with the corvette enthusiast as I am a corvette owner also (although vintage muscle, not new). I have several observations.
1. I think Twister is largely on the money in his analysis. I have been to the tract a couple of times now with my Viper and I am the only one there. There must have been over a dozen late model vettes and 3 z06s I saw personally. Bottom line: there are a lot more vettes drag racing than vipers. Accordingly, the number of passes made in these vehicles are probably 10-20 times the number of viper passes made at drag strips on a cumlative basis. As a whole, this provides far more opportunities to refine the combination to get the best out of it.
2. Of those that do drag race vipers, I have not seen very many really trying to optimize the stock package. Again Twister is right that most mod there cars to make insane horsepower (which is not hard to do) and drag race those. So the pool of owners really spending some time (and having the skills to boot) to optimize a stock viper is not a large group. I happen to have an interest in doing that so we will see (and both my other cars are high horsepower, very limited traction cars on radials also so this is what I am used too). It is also a fact that to optimize a stock viper is more difficult than to optimize a Z because of the torque and powerband of the car.
3. To this end, only Furman and 1BadGTS seem to be the only two 08 viper owners with stockers that have tried very hard to see what this car can do and neither of those are recent. Again, I believe there are legions of z06 owners trying to get a 10 second slip stock all over the country.
4. If I can take a stock 06 and turn an 11.80 at 120 with less than 25 passes on the car I am quite sure I will see an 11.60-11.70 run with somemore time in the car. This puts a stock 03-06 quite close to the average times posted by Jamie (thanks Jamie very complete list) and better than many.
5. So the real questions is why aren't there more 08 owners out there really trying to see what that car can do. With over 100 HP more than my 06 this car should see a 10 second slip under the very favorable conditions Jamie mentioned at 130-132 with a good driver. Period. What is really lacking is the owners efforts to do so, as Twister mentioned, because most Viper owners really don't care about this. But if they did it would surely end this debate.
1. I think Twister is largely on the money in his analysis. I have been to the tract a couple of times now with my Viper and I am the only one there. There must have been over a dozen late model vettes and 3 z06s I saw personally. Bottom line: there are a lot more vettes drag racing than vipers. Accordingly, the number of passes made in these vehicles are probably 10-20 times the number of viper passes made at drag strips on a cumlative basis. As a whole, this provides far more opportunities to refine the combination to get the best out of it.
2. Of those that do drag race vipers, I have not seen very many really trying to optimize the stock package. Again Twister is right that most mod there cars to make insane horsepower (which is not hard to do) and drag race those. So the pool of owners really spending some time (and having the skills to boot) to optimize a stock viper is not a large group. I happen to have an interest in doing that so we will see (and both my other cars are high horsepower, very limited traction cars on radials also so this is what I am used too). It is also a fact that to optimize a stock viper is more difficult than to optimize a Z because of the torque and powerband of the car.
3. To this end, only Furman and 1BadGTS seem to be the only two 08 viper owners with stockers that have tried very hard to see what this car can do and neither of those are recent. Again, I believe there are legions of z06 owners trying to get a 10 second slip stock all over the country.
4. If I can take a stock 06 and turn an 11.80 at 120 with less than 25 passes on the car I am quite sure I will see an 11.60-11.70 run with somemore time in the car. This puts a stock 03-06 quite close to the average times posted by Jamie (thanks Jamie very complete list) and better than many.
5. So the real questions is why aren't there more 08 owners out there really trying to see what that car can do. With over 100 HP more than my 06 this car should see a 10 second slip under the very favorable conditions Jamie mentioned at 130-132 with a good driver. Period. What is really lacking is the owners efforts to do so, as Twister mentioned, because most Viper owners really don't care about this. But if they did it would surely end this debate.
