Watch out for this scam!!!!!!!!!!!!

[99 R/T 10]

Check it out, the car is located in europe. Look at the wheel caps, on picture the sneeky pete is painted, in the other it's not

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6209&item=2478328360&rd=1

 

[RavenFan_94]

Wow. good eye!

 

[andrew8896]

that or the pictures were taken at different times... in one picture the grass is green, while it is brown in the other...

 

[STUGOTS]

why do SO MANY viper ads on ebay say auto tranny????????????? even legit ones do why??

mustangs don't
vettes don't
even ferrari's don't

why do most vipers??

drives me nuts

 

[dennis]

Hmmmm... So this car is in europe, huh?
I might send him a mail.

 

[2001 Sapphire Blue]

Feedback score is 0... not good. And looks like he got a buddy..Tsinzo to put up a bogus bid. Tsinzo's score is also 0.

 

[joe117]

I sent him an email. I said I was interested in buying a Viper in Europe and I wanted to look at the car right now wherever it was.
He just sent back a reply.

"we will let you know after the auction is over
james"

I'd say it's a scam. Of course, I'm a negative guy.

 

[cayenne]

I wonder if this is the same car that has been on and off Autotrader.com?
Darn...just looked. That ad was just there like a couple days ago, and gone again. I thought it looked fishy there being in Europe and all...

 

[Matt M PA]

Yeah...and in the BG of one pic there is a parked Suburban. How many of those in Europe?

 

[BigCarrot]

I have a guy from England that buys domestic SUV's from me from time to time. They aren't common, but they are there. He usually sells them after a few months and doubles his money.

 

[Matt M PA]

BigCarrot...I figured it was a fairly rare sight...only adding to the question of this auction.

 

[VIPER BAZ UK]

Vipers overhere have to have a side repeater somewhere around the VIPER RT/10 badge on the hood...
Also why is the 3rd pic a diferent size and colour...

 

[LIVIPER]

Yeah...and in the BG of one pic there is a parked Suburban. How many of those in Europe?

I though the same thing. Also, notice the front, left and right side pics, but nothing of the back where a euro plate would be!

 

[MichaelP]

They replied to the email I sent them:

the car is located in Romania, Eastern europe.
it was shipped here by CARGUS, the most reputable shipping company from here. We decided to ship it back through the same shipping company
You can visit their website at www.cargus.ro or contact them at [email protected]
if you have the money ready for wire transfer to their bank account, then the viper could be yours.
They will act as a third part between us during the whole process of shipping.

james

I know how to see full headers when I get something at Yahoo but this came to my OutLook Express email address. How do I see full headers?

 

[NY VIPER]

They are asking for your credit card # for any bid over $15,000. That is really scary. It seems that all of these "too good to be true" deals are someone selling from Europe, where it would be hard to get your deposit back. SCAM written all over this one.

 

[MichaelP]

Any bid on Ebay over 15K require you to register a credit card.

 

[Jerry Dobson]

Michael,

Are you asking for:

Highlight the Email, then hit PPROPERTIES.... then DETAILS.

 

[MichaelP]

Thank you Jerry.

Well the IP addy is 80.97.176.192 which is Bucharest Romania



From: james sherrie <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Viper for sale

 

[VENM8R]

Lookie here:

http://www.autoseekandsell.com/dsp_adinfoarea.cfm/adid/4865

They are willing to sell it for $20,000, shipping included.
BITEU2 is the Georgia license plate.
It only has 11,000 miles in this ad??

Who ever has access to or lives in Georgia could tell you if this is legit or not - after all there can only be "one" BITEU2 registered there.

http://www.carbuyer.com/search/viper/

Ad from above url:
"1993 Viper 11000 Miles, Red The car is titled in USA, but it is located in Eastern Europe.The shipping will take between 16-18 days.The price is negotiable.The funds will be wired into the shipping company's bank account.After delivery of the car, they will release the funds to our account.VIN : 1B3BR65E8PV200399. Miles :11000. Tag Number :BITEU2. BUCHAREST, EUR [email protected]"





one of the "EBay" pictures match this ad from georgia:
Auto Trader Ad w/same pic


"1993 DODGE VIPER RT/10 - Perfect condition, Carbon Fiber dash, new Pilot Sport tires, CD Player, Garage kept, fanatic up-keep, new soft top, Vipermania hard windows and original side curtains, 13,000 miles Gen 1 Viper,absolute time capsule., $39,000, 770-861-2570 ".


One more Ad

Excerpt from above url:

1993 Dodge Viper

Make: Viper
Model: Dodge
Year: 1993
Colors: (Ext/Int) Red / Grey
Miles: 10500
Price: $39900
Private: Jeff Miller
Location: Ellijay, GA
Phone: (706) 636-5911 or (706) 636-3139

Description: This is an absolutly no excuses Viper in perfect condition. Carbon Viber Dash, Brand new Pilot Sport Tires , CD Player. Never drivin in the Rain. Garage kept. Fanatic up-keep on fluids, oil etc. Early 93 model with external rear fender antenna. An absolute time capsule original Gen 1 Viper. New soft top,Vipermania Hard windows, also have original side curtains.


Alright, ONE more ad (the last one) from the same people for the EBay listing?

More pics


Description:
- This 1993 DODGE VIPER RT-10 is located in Europe.The price is negotiable. We will arrange delivery of the car to you for your inspection on a refundable deposit. If you find the car not as represented at time of delivery your deposit is refunded entirely and we are responsible for shipping cost. VIN : 1B3BR65E8PV200399. Miles :18000. We will be glad to answer all of your questions. Contact us at [email protected] to discuss about the price also.The car is in good running condition, no accidents.Thank you.

"Price: $25,000 (or Best Offer)"

 

[MOUNTAINWOLF]

Wow. Ellijay GA. That's 15 minutes from where I live. Vipers are pretty rare up here. There are only 3 in my town. Ellijay... not sure, but I could find out.

 

[LIVIPER]

Can someone carfax this vin to see what's up? VIN : 1B3BR65E8PV200399

 

[cayenne]

Can someone carfax this vin to see what's up? VIN : 1B3BR65E8PV200399

Carfax looks clean...reports one owner...from Arkansas:

CARFAX estimates that this 1993 DODGE VIPER RT/10 (1B3BR65E8PV200399) had 1 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.


Estimated Owners: Date: Location:

1st owner 07/26/1993 Arkansas

CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 1993 DODGE VIPER RT/10 (1B3BR65E8PV200399).

Mileage Consistency Check:

CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 1993 DODGE VIPER RT/10 (1B3BR65E8PV200399).

Date: Mileage:

07/26/1993 11

09/27/1993 361

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CARFAX searched more than 3 billion records from over 5,300 sources and found 6 record(s) for this 1993 DODGE VIPER RT/10 (1B3BR65E8PV200399).


Date: Mileage Reading: Source: General Comments:

06/01/1993
Arkansas
Motor Vehicle Dept. Registered as
North Little Rock, AR personal vehicle

07/26/1993 11 Arkansas Title or registration issued
Motor Vehicle Dept. First owner reported
North Little Rock, AR
Title #9320311968



09/27/1993 361 Arkansas Title or registration issued
Motor Vehicle Dept. Loan or lien reported
North Little Rock, AR
Title #9327011624



06/30/1995 Arkansas Title or registration issued
Motor Vehicle Dept. Duplicate title issued
North Little Rock, AR Loan or lien reported
Title #9518129270


06/18/2001 Arkansas Title or registration issued
Motor Vehicle Dept.
North Little Rock, AR
Title #999401H9743


06/26/2001 Georgia Title issued
Motor Vehicle Dept. Registration issued
Ellijay, GA Loan or lien reported
Title #0911011773103



What do ya'll make of this? If you were to send money to the shipper...would that be of any more protection in a scam....??

Too scary for my blood...but, curious....

I've got Carfax for a month if anyone needs....I've been checking out Vipers left and right...



Damn...all that trouble formatting, and it runs together on the post..

 

[Wild Bill]

Well Arkansas is right next door to Romania.

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