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    Returning to the Viper world: Gen5...How different from previous Gen4 and Gen2?

    Is your goal to really find out or just discuss it. There has been a ton of discussion on this topic by many Gen5 owners already. Here is an example: (I wrote this back in May. Now have 2k miles on the car and just like it better in every way. Seriously, they are night and day. I know, I...
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    General Owners Concensus on the Gen 5

    I have an LE with 2k miles now and like it more today than when I got it new. compared to my gen3 vert (which I love), it is no contest as the car is better in every single way other than two (only two) points and that is seats are not as comfortable and it is not a vert. If you have had prior...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    I am sure that your story is somehow related... but thanks for sharing your story brah...
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    SC and Vert for 2016 rumors

    ok, got me confused. someone said it would have 650lbs of torque and you suggested it should be much higher. someone else suggests it is the transmission limits. An you question that comparing to the hellcat. (which has 650lbs). What is the point you are trying to make? That you think it...
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    SC and Vert for 2016 rumors

    I think that was the point. the Hellcat is restricted to 650lbs of torque.
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    Since you have a TA, did you track on both the stock tires and the MPCS's at the same track? If so, how comparable were your times. (interesting as it relates to the strong opinions on the tires)
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    2014 C&D VIR Lightning Lap Results...Viper TA delivers!

    Are folks saying "track" car or "race" car? two very different things and seems like the definitions either get confused or vary dramatically from person to person.
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    Got to share my experience today. So driving the Gen5 to a Cars and Coffee which I never do, stop at a gas station, stop at a starbucks. For the non-owners that somehow think the car looks dated or not mean enough or think it is part of the problem in sales, here is some data of the day. 1) at...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    ok, I will bite. didn't you just describe the case with every car ever made. Your Gen2 was not adequate the minute the Gen3 was released. I guess not following the point you are trying to make.
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    Sunsalem, let me get this right, if the Gen5 offered and auto, you would get one instantly? Your comment saying the only things you liked about the Gen5 is the interior and tale lights threw me. Maybe just me, but I need to like much more than the interior, tail lights and have an auto to...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    Was not trying to be condescending, I really was not. Just pointing out what you would hear from all those that track their cars and think that is the priority. If street racing, drag racing or car show bragging, then you have different requirements. But when you call out all the track guys...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    Wow, such great advice. Just did that and it makes a world of difference.
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    See, this is the funny part, if you have tracked at all, you would know the one place that becomes the most boring is what you just described. The straights are the places to relax because no skill involved. also, having that same SC run great for a couple laps and then not and only become a...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    Ahh, a good question related to the actual topic. I run R6's, so can't speak to it with any direct experience. Seems like Bruce should be getting close to wearing his out. If he purchased the cups and went back to the tracks he has been at, it would be a great comparison. But to you point...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    Much of what you say is spot on, but you have many assumptions built into your statements both about sales # goals, what the problem is and how to fix, so lets look at it a bit closer. The Viper has not sold in great #'s (more than 1k per year) since the 2006 Gen3. None of the Gen4 years sold...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    You got the response you did because you asked someone to not participate in a post they had started... You love to start and post comments on "what could or should be" for the future, but not much about what is. Bob was right, you never asked how much the additional downforce would improve...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    Bob, totally agree. At some point, those who have not purchased the car must admit to themselves they either don't have the coin or don't like the car and time to move on. It is a GenV forum, so I would think their would be appreciation and respect for those with EXPERIENCE with the car...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    And I use your C7 example. Not a good looking car by most peoples accounts. Nobody is raving about the looks of the C7 as the enticer, just purely the perf and tech side. Same for the charger and challenger. Looks are not the driver in these cases you are listing, so thank goodness they have...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    I just don't buy this reasoning at all. I have yet to find anyone in person (of all ages) that does not think the car is spectacular looking and wild at the same time. One could look at many places, but I think the design is not one of them. As a side note, you guys do realize the Gen5 for...
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    New G5 owner

    That is awesome, congrats. wondering, I had read/heard that the K&N intake did not add anything from the SRT engineer's over the OEM package. Did you dyno and see the +14hp gain?
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    2013 gts

    Only you know what your are willing to pay. If it was me, offer 98k and close the deal. Remember black on black was one of (if not the most) common color combo's so that means you have more options and thus a lower price is acceptable. Also, does it have the optional leather interior or not...
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    Possible 2016 Supercharged

    ok, I guess we have different criteria of what a quality SUV is and its purpose. Tell me about the towing capacity, off road ability, ride on the street, comfort, etc. Bob, lets be serious in bringing up a modded Jeep as a point of reference. What you show is impressive, but not sure how...
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    Possible 2016 Supercharged

    I can only speak to my experience and friends, but have had multiple AMG's and bullet proof cars and owned for up to 9yrs. I can't say the same with American cars owned in the past. I don't think reliability is the issue, but the cost of doing the exact same repair is higher( sometimes much...
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    Possible 2016 Supercharged

    Did I mention somewhere in my note the SLS? (nope). time to put the flag down for a minute, we are just talking about cars. Why bringing up history from 80yrs ago, we are talking about products the manufactures produce today, correct? You also got to stop doing the "for less money" routine...
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    Possible 2016 Supercharged

    we are talking about cars, right? Seriously, drive and own and Mercedes AMG (E, S, SL or even C class) and tell me it is not a better car (much better car) than the American offerings. It just is so give its due and understand the reputation was earned. More importantly, drive one that is...

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