What? that makes no sense, I thought it was only the HP figures that mattered....
Seriously, of course you are right, but if you do enough track days, you ultimately can get sessions with good drivers on different cars, with relatively speaking the same mods (tires/brake pads) and it becomes...
Kind of a "No S**t Sherlock" statement. Viper issue is not HP, but getting it to the ground. AWD does that for these other cars. why do you guys think the GTR is fast out of the hole. DCT helps also and allows the driver to be out of the equation, no skill required.
btw, what is the price...
My comment earlier on this was really relative to the later gen's in regards to handling and braking. It is a world of difference, but you points below are valid as comparison to its time. btw, Gen3 oil issue easily solved with the Gen4 pan/swing-arm setup and really only an issue when running...
I think you started this whole thread, but in reading all your comments, it seems what you want is provided by the Challenger. It is in the price range, has the hp rating you want, has an auto, has exhaust out the rear, is built to go in a straight line. So, why start this thread if you...
That is good, then you should do that. If I was looking for a track "only" toy, I would probably do the same. But we both know that is not what we were talking about...
Again, you want a drag car for street racing and HP figures that you can tell your buddies about, the challenger satisfies...
And then we agree, the challenger is built for your needs. The Viper is not a muscle car to go in a straight line and is not a 60-70k car. It is so much more. Why the desire to make it something it never was.
Folks need to go track a car for a day or two. If you have a Gen3 or newer viper...
so, just throwing out random #'s here? The 96GTS was a lousy track car, you are correct. Gen3/4 are very good out of the box and ACR's excellent with the Gen5 being even better.
you are looking to a viper to be a drag car? you want street racing? wow, lets lower the bar a bit more. Seems...
you need to test drive a different car because something was wrong with the one you did if that is how you viewed the manual in it. It is way way better than the prior gen models.
The Viper has always been the natural progression/upgrade for Vette owners so no need to advertise it. The simple fact is most corvette buyers either don't have the $$$ or can't justify the $$$ difference. Also, I would not get so caught up into someone at one point saying they were targeting...
I think your quote here is what disqualifies you. Tesla on the track? a person could take any car to the track (agree), but that does not make it a car that has any design aspects for it. Since you have not experienced a track day, it is fair to assume you don't understand the loads put on a...
Actually was paying attention. It was about track times comparing GenV TA vs GTS vs SRT in case you were not aware. There was no mention or need to mention the Gen4 unless you wanted to bring up the news Brian E does in post #109...(which I suspect you did not want to see and still probably...
Bob, until you or someone else on here takes a GTS with track pack brakes and aero on the track and then take a TA on the track, you really don't know. You must agree to that. the mid-level brakes you describe are what were used on ACR's, so need to be careful on how you describe them. Just...
Ralph is referring to new car purchases. If you had bought one new from a dealer, you would know they ask this as a question as part of the sales process.
What is in it. I am not sure if you just pose stuff to stir it up or not. Did you know the V10 was 180lbs lighter, and a much shorter and narrower engine? If building a car to handle, isn't that exactly what you would want? (weight down low). Of course it is.
again, if folks want to get...
what is funny about the folks that say put the hellcat in the viper, note the quote below:
"Reminder: Putting a Hellcat engine in a Viper would be silly! While the supercharged 6.2 makes 62 hp and 50 lb-ft of torque more than the Viper V-10, it weighs about 180 pounds more and the blower means...
I actually don't think it matters if a member or not (considering how little that gets you now), but more about actual knowledge and experience with the product itself.
I think we too often associate member = owner, and enthusiast not = owner. Most important is if they own, use or have real...
ok, my serious answer:
conv: meet the needs of the 9000+ Gen3/4 conv owners (atleast remove the excuse)
8sp auto: 80% of sports cars come with them now ( it is what is expected by the majority)
problem solved.
2000hp, 15ft wide, 24" tall, v-20 motor and 12 sp transmission. 0-60 in 1 sec, 1/4 in 8sec. forget about turns as no need for that as that can't be valued, we need to just go fast in a straight line.
Make it look like the gen2, gen 3, gen 4 and yet totally completely unique and different so...
awesome analysis and matches with my experience from a Gen3 to a Gen5. Nice to see some valuable info. I will say I think you will even be more impressed after each month you drive it.
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