Another one bites the dust!!!!

[wiseasp]

Thanks guys for the support. Geico looked at the car today and totaled it. The rep was AWESOME. He said that all he could see on the ground not on a lift yet was up to $56,000 . He was having it towed to a bodyshop to look under the car. He told me that I would have a check by next week. We will see what happens.

Thanks again!!!!

 

[Mopar Boy]

Glad to hear that they are working with you so far!

Sorry to hear of the loss, but glad you are OK.

Robert

 

[GTSRboy2000]

I naturally push in the clutch when i brake hard, if the car took off i would have hit the clutch to diable it. Reguardless, thats a crazy souding accident. I dont think that gas pedal should have been able to bend sideways and get under the brake

 

[Gus Strakes]

Hey Rob - Very sorry about the car, but glad you're Ok. What you described is very scary, and could easily happen to any of us. Where were you when it happened? I loved your car, and will always remember how awsome it looked when you passed me on the Pa turnpike when we were coming back from Carlisle. Let me know if there is anything I can do.

 

[FikseGTS]

I'll take the other side, if he DID have the ipod adapter, he wouldn't have been looking down at the ipod......

no offense and please don't take this wrong but just that you pointed it out. You looked down at your IPOD while driving a viper and had an accedent. Then people wonder why Dodge didn't have a ipod adapter built into the Viper??!?!?! Well here it is. AN Ipod has no business in a Viper.

Sorry for you loss but lets hope a lesson is learned from this.

I only say this because the same thing happened to me a few years back. I looked down to change songs on my ipod and a car swerved infront of me and I swerved into a wall. I totaled my car but it was only a Mazda 3si. That was the last time I put an ipod in my car and the last accedent I had.

 

[GTS-R 001]

wiseasp

Alot of Viper racers actually hit the gas and the brake at the same time, 2 feet in, but not the regular 2 feet (brake/clutch) hitting the brake and the gas gets the car to spin instead of lock up all 4 tires and go straight into a wall.

Either way, glad you are OK

 

[wiseasp]

I'll take the other side, if he DID have the ipod adapter, he wouldn't have been looking down at the ipod......

I DID HAVE THE ADAPTER WITH NAV AND SIRIUS. I was looking at the radio to hit the AUX button to switch to the ipod.

 

[wiseasp]

Hey Rob - Very sorry about the car, but glad you're Ok. What you described is very scary, and could easily happen to any of us. Where were you when it happened? I loved your car, and will always remember how awsome it looked when you passed me on the Pa turnpike when we were coming back from Carlisle. Let me know if there is anything I can do.

Thanks Gus. After the dust settles from the insurance co. I will be on the hunt again.

 

[Austin]

Wow, no good. Really sorry to hear this. Glad you're OK and that you werent harmed. The car can be replaced. Weird about the pedal.

 

[JonB]

Thanks guys for the support. Geico looked at the car today and totaled it. The rep was AWESOME. He said that all he could see on the ground not on a lift yet was up to $56,000 . He was having it towed to a bodyshop to look under the car. He told me that I would have a check by next week. We will see what happens. Thanks again!!!!

Asp: please remember, the awesome rep works for GEICO, not you. His goal is to give you as little of Geico's $$ as he can.

PLEASE CALL ME soon..... I want to share a 'settlement primer' with you, and your profile is blank. I cannot Id you so I cannot call you!

 

[dragon rider]

Glad you are O.K. Cars can be replaced.

 

[wiseasp]

Geico settled the claim. I received the check yesterday. They were AWESOME!!!!! They gave me $77K for my stock car . I did not have to go back and forth with them or anything, that was the first number and I though it was fair. I took off all the aftermarket stuff and sold it to a friend of mine for his 04.

I still have the Dodge carbon fiber dash kit and a Factory 08 hood painted by Woodhouse of a VCA coupe if anyone wants them let me know.

 

[Shandon]

Geico settled the claim. I received the check yesterday. They were AWESOME!!!!! They gave me $77K for my stock car . I did not have to go back and forth with them or anything, that was the first number and I though it was fair. I took off all the aftermarket stuff and sold it to a friend of mine for his 04.

I still have the Dodge carbon fiber dash kit and a Factory 08 hood painted by Woodhouse of a VCA coupe if anyone wants them let me know.

Thats awesome news and Congratulations! Good to hear that an Insurance company can treat a customer right now days!

 

[Mopar Boy]

Glad to hear all worked out!

With what they gave you and in this market, you should be able to get something good!

Robert

 

[fireball]

wiseasp

Alot of Viper racers actually hit the gas and the brake at the same time, 2 feet in, but not the regular 2 feet (brake/clutch) hitting the brake and the gas gets the car to spin instead of lock up all 4 tires and go straight into a wall.

Either way, glad you are OK

HUH? I've been racing since the 70's (including a National Championship)and this is a new one for me.

This is BAD advice! If you're crashing you don't want to go any faster into... well - whatever your going into! Stay off the gas.

One exception - banked ovals. Sometimes (and usually only with low polar moment cars) when you lose the rear you can stay off the wall by pinning it causing the car to complete it's spin and come down the banking away from the wall. On a road course this doesn't work - don't do it.

Simple rule, if you've lost control, slower is always better than faster.

Greg

 

[mbccenter]

PM sent on Hood.

 

[CarDude]

Geico settled the claim. I received the check yesterday. They were AWESOME!!!!! They gave me $77K for my stock car . I did not have to go back and forth with them or anything, that was the first number and I though it was fair. I took off all the aftermarket stuff and sold it to a friend of mine for his 04.

I still have the Dodge carbon fiber dash kit and a Factory 08 hood painted by Woodhouse of a VCA coupe if anyone wants them let me know.

Wow that is sooo good to hear as I have Geico on all three of my Vipers.

 

[VIPER R]

Have you sold the hood?

 

[GTS-R 001]

HUH? I've been racing since the 70's (including a National Championship)and this is a new one for me.

This is BAD advice! If you're crashing you don't want to go any faster into... well - whatever your going into! Stay off the gas.

One exception - banked ovals. Sometimes (and usually only with low polar moment cars) when you lose the rear you can stay off the wall by pinning it causing the car to complete it's spin and come down the banking away from the wall. On a road course this doesn't work - don't do it.

Simple rule, if you've lost control, slower is always better than faster.

Greg

If you talk to alot of Viper racers, they do brake and gas, vs brake and clutch as that puts you into a tight donut and you spin vs go straight, though as a qualifier, the situation dictates what you do, if you have lots of room brake and clutch, if you are headed straight for a wall turn the wheel brake and gas.

 

[GTS-R 001]

Have you sold the hood?

I still have a hood,

Pm me or email at

[email protected]

 

[fireball]

If you talk to alot of Viper racers, they do brake and gas, vs brake and clutch as that puts you into a tight donut and you spin vs go straight, though as a qualifier, the situation dictates what you do, if you have lots of room brake and clutch, if you are headed straight for a wall turn the wheel brake and gas.

Well... that's exactly what WISEASP did (the first post in this thread) and it's a good thing too - otherwise he would've totalled his car. Oh, he did total his car.....

Read his real life experience when his throttle got stuck open and he was on the brakes at the same time. Then tell me what a good idea that is. If you're ever at the track with me please let me know, I'll give you lot's of room!

Sometimes when exiting a corner I'll apply some brake to put some weight on the front to help the car turn - but it's subtle and the concept is not to 'spin' the car.

I suggest you sell that hood quickly - it's life doesn't look like it'll be a long one.

Greg

 

[GTS-R 001]

Well... that's exactly what WISEASP did (the first post in this thread) and it's a good thing too - otherwise he would've totalled his car. Oh, he did total his car.....

Read his real life experience when his throttle got stuck open and he was on the brakes at the same time. Then tell me what a good idea that is. If you're ever at the track with me please let me know, I'll give you lot's of room!

Sometimes when exiting a corner I'll apply some brake to put some weight on the front to help the car turn - but it's subtle and the concept is not to 'spin' the car.

I suggest you sell that hood quickly - it's life doesn't look like it'll be a long one.

Greg

Sounds like you have a lot of attitude and a general lack of knowledge.

What you are doing by touching the brakes when you are exiting is called TRAIL BRAKING.

Perhaps you should watch soem world challenge races with VIPER and see what they do, email Bob Woodhouse and ask him if he hits the brake and the Gas when he is headed for a wall.

I am not saying that is the be all end all, but it is just like trail braking, it has its time and place and its purpose.

The original poster of this thread WAS NOT ON A RACE TRACK, get it!

 

[CCBrian]

wiseasp

Alot of Viper racers actually hit the gas and the brake at the same time, 2 feet in, but not the regular 2 feet (brake/clutch) hitting the brake and the gas gets the car to spin instead of lock up all 4 tires and go straight into a wall.

Either way, glad you are OK

OK I race a Viper CC in NASA, VRL and SCCA Regional and National...I teach at SCCA Ground School...I have never heard of this... since you are in NorCal, if you drive like this, please stay off the track when I am out or warn me and I will stay in.

 

[GTS-R 001]

OK I race a Viper CC in NASA, VRL and SCCA Regional and National...I teach at SCCA Ground School...I have never heard of this... since you are in NorCal, if you drive like this, please stay off the track when I am out or warn me and I will stay in.

So, Brian,You have never seen a race where a car goes off the track and spins in very tight circles?

The purpose is that the momentum of the car starts to spin instead of goes straight into a WALL.

Like I said TWICE now, it is a TOOL for the correct situation.

Use your brains, ask around. A lot of race cars do not have the torque to overcome the braking, the viper does. IT IS A TOOL for when the situation arises.

 

[fireball]

Sounds like you have a lot of attitude and a general lack of knowledge.

What you are doing by touching the brakes when you are exiting is called TRAIL BRAKING.

Perhaps you should watch soem world challenge races with VIPER and see what they do, email Bob Woodhouse and ask him if he hits the brake and the Gas when he is headed for a wall.

I am not saying that is the be all end all, but it is just like trail braking, it has its time and place and its purpose.

The original poster of this thread WAS NOT ON A RACE TRACK, get it!

Trail braking is going INTO a corner - not exiting (Google it - see what you get).

Sorry if you sense this as attitude. I teach more than 50 high performance schools a year and the concept of hitting the brakes and the gas to prevent a crash is, in my opinion, very bad advice and I just want to make sure that anyone reading this thread knows there's an opposing opinion. It's serious business when someone is heading into a wall and with 600hp on tap hitting the throttle is not the right thing to do. It doesn't matter what car you're in either - there's no special Newtonian laws for Vipers.

If you want to do that - go for it. I hope it works for you.

 

[GTS-R 001]

Trail braking is going INTO a corner - not exiting (Google it - see what you get).
I Know this, I was just telling the previous poster what it was called as he did not seem to know and trail braking can be continued through a corner as well, it is primarily used to keep as much traction to as many tires as possible great for big sweeping corners etc.
Sorry if you sense this as attitude. I teach more than 50 high performance schools a year and the concept of hitting the brakes and the gas to prevent a crash is, in my opinion, very bad advice and I just want to make sure that anyone reading this thread knows there's an opposing opinion. It's serious business when someone is heading into a wall and with 600hp on tap hitting the throttle is not the right thing to do. It doesn't matter what car you're in either - there's no special Newtonian laws for Vipers.


If you want to do that - go for it. I hope it works for you.

As I have said it is a tool to use, I had never heard about doing so either until I heard about it from a bunch of viper racers,

 

[ViperTony]

As I have said it is a tool to use, I had never heard about doing so either until I heard about it from a bunch of viper racers,

Bench racers or folks that actually race on the track? Sometimes there's a difference. Maybe it's the torque output of the Viper as fireball states but I've never had an instructor, yet, tell me to hit both the gas and the brake to avoid going into a wall. Not that I actually want to try praticing that. Like any tool...there are good tools and bad tools for the job. Choose wisely.

 

[VIPER GTSR 91]

Geico settled the claim. I received the check yesterday. They were AWESOME!!!!! They gave me $77K for my stock car . I did not have to go back and forth with them or anything, that was the first number and I though it was fair. I took off all the aftermarket stuff and sold it to a friend of mine for his 04.

I still have the Dodge carbon fiber dash kit and a Factory 08 hood painted by Woodhouse of a VCA coupe if anyone wants them let me know.

Man are you lucky!! Good thing you did not have USAA as I USED to have. I still have not received a cent for my stolen and totalled 99 Viper that happened in mid Nov. My attorney says I MAY hear something next week. All the body shop managers I talk with too say they have problems with USAA also. Count your blessings.

 

[unreelviper]

Rob, you are going to make me switch to GEICO. I'm glad that you are o.k. and everything has worked out for you. I can't wait to see what you get next. Thanks for the ideas that you gave me from your 06 coupe. Hopefully, I will see you this spring with another beautiful snake......Good Luck!!!!