RedEnuf93
Enthusiast
And I'm still without 17 inchers.....
Lauri
Lauri
Get on the phone NOW and call tirerack!!!!!
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VENM8R
Viper Owner
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by steveb:
Glad I could help a lot of people out here. Tirerack has a list of pre-approved shops that will mount them for you. You can even have them sent to the shop so you don't need to mess with it. I'm lucky, I know someone who will mount/bal. for free...
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I wouldn't put much stock in the "pre-approved" shops that Tirerack has listed. The one listed for our state, the business owner told me to come on down and the would repair my tire right away.
After getting there and they(his workers) looked at it, they said it would be a couple of hours??!! Of course I waited..and waited...until closing time.
I asked the owner if they were going to repair my tire now and his response was "NO". "Come back tommorrow, I don't care, I don't want to stay late". Thanks, Muffler City for the "true" proffesionals that you are.
Glad I could help a lot of people out here. Tirerack has a list of pre-approved shops that will mount them for you. You can even have them sent to the shop so you don't need to mess with it. I'm lucky, I know someone who will mount/bal. for free...
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I wouldn't put much stock in the "pre-approved" shops that Tirerack has listed. The one listed for our state, the business owner told me to come on down and the would repair my tire right away.
After getting there and they(his workers) looked at it, they said it would be a couple of hours??!! Of course I waited..and waited...until closing time.
I asked the owner if they were going to repair my tire now and his response was "NO". "Come back tommorrow, I don't care, I don't want to stay late". Thanks, Muffler City for the "true" proffesionals that you are.
Steve Miehe
Enthusiast
My tires were shipped out today. Will let you guys know how they look once delivery takes place.
Tom and Vipers
Enthusiast
OK, so how do you store tires for 1-2 years and not have them thrn hard as rocks?
garolittle
Enthusiast
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tom and Vipers:
OK, so how do you store tires for 1-2 years and not have them thrn hard as rocks?
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Same question here.
OK, so how do you store tires for 1-2 years and not have them thrn hard as rocks?
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Same question here.
Viperrick
Enthusiast
What Jerry Dobson posted above is the best you can do unless you can hermeticaly seal them with some sort of vacume system. You want to store them in a cool, dark, dry space. No hot attics or damp basements (but I can't believe that mold would go after rubber anyways since it likes wood based product to grow on). Also remember to keep it out of a room that has an electric motor. Don't know why but I remember hearing this a long time ago. Something about electric motors and magnetic pull from windings effecting rubber.
jrkermode
Enthusiast
Viperrick,
The reason to keep clear of electrical motors is ozone produced by arcing contacts within the motor. Ozone is nasty stuff for plastics.
As to the tires being old, hard and worthless once they get on the car...
I have discussed this topic with engineers from Michelin, Goodyear and Hoosier. It has also been the topic of an "ask Tire Rack" article in Grassroots Motorsports magazine. The definition of old varies, but serious racers won't use tires more than a few months old (based on the production date molded into the tire), or more than about 4 heat cycles old. That means pretty much anything on a street car (old and lots of heat cycles) is past its prime for most of its life. So, age isn't really worth worrying about.
The reason to keep clear of electrical motors is ozone produced by arcing contacts within the motor. Ozone is nasty stuff for plastics.
As to the tires being old, hard and worthless once they get on the car...
I have discussed this topic with engineers from Michelin, Goodyear and Hoosier. It has also been the topic of an "ask Tire Rack" article in Grassroots Motorsports magazine. The definition of old varies, but serious racers won't use tires more than a few months old (based on the production date molded into the tire), or more than about 4 heat cycles old. That means pretty much anything on a street car (old and lots of heat cycles) is past its prime for most of its life. So, age isn't really worth worrying about.
Steve 00RT/10
Enthusiast
Michelin says the tires are warranteed for 6 years from the date of manufacture(found on the side of the tire). Plastic bags--no silicone products of any kind is their recommendation.
I bought some when this thread started up around October and called Michelin for their advice. They also said to store in cool, dry place and rotate every couple months.
Steve
I bought some when this thread started up around October and called Michelin for their advice. They also said to store in cool, dry place and rotate every couple months.
Steve
Steve Miehe
Enthusiast
I plan to do what Steve (00 RT) indicates in order to keep them as fresh as possible.
Nexus-6
Enthusiast
Got mine today and they look great - gotta find some bags big enough to hold these suckers now!
Tom and Vipers
Enthusiast
I have some Uniroyals on my Super Lark that are 25 years old and did not dry rot.
They did have Armorall on them.
But they are as hard as wood.
In fact, if I do a burnout, they sound like wood.
A new meaning for "giving it the wood."
Find a large back - perhaps an engine bag from a machine shop and then **** all the air out with a vacuum cleaner. You might even put bags of dessicant in there too.
They did have Armorall on them.
But they are as hard as wood.
In fact, if I do a burnout, they sound like wood.
A new meaning for "giving it the wood."
Find a large back - perhaps an engine bag from a machine shop and then **** all the air out with a vacuum cleaner. You might even put bags of dessicant in there too.
Nexus-6
Enthusiast
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tom and Vipers:
Find a large back...
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That's good advice no matter how ya cut it.
Find a large back...
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That's good advice no matter how ya cut it.
BlackACR
Enthusiast
Be carful guys some people have been getting 3 to 4 year old tires. Some with dry crack. Buyer beware of low prices
KenH
Enthusiast
Jim,
I just ordered a set of rears through the local Michelin tire shop yesterday for $208 each installed. That's probably about as good as your going to get by the time you order from TireRack, pay shipping and then find someone to install, plus less hassle.
Lesson learned last weekend.... If the car feels a little funny, get out and check your tire pressure before you drive 5 miles. I had just put on EBC green pads and thought the brakes were dragging a little from my shoddy workmanship.... WRONG! I was looking for a reason to pick up some of these cheap tires, guess I got my wish!
--- Ken
I just ordered a set of rears through the local Michelin tire shop yesterday for $208 each installed. That's probably about as good as your going to get by the time you order from TireRack, pay shipping and then find someone to install, plus less hassle.
Lesson learned last weekend.... If the car feels a little funny, get out and check your tire pressure before you drive 5 miles. I had just put on EBC green pads and thought the brakes were dragging a little from my shoddy workmanship.... WRONG! I was looking for a reason to pick up some of these cheap tires, guess I got my wish!
--- Ken
Jay Herbert
Enthusiast
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jimandela:
I would get on my yellow cell phone and call
but no one local will mount the tires they dont sell me....
bastages!!!
so if i got them how do i get them mounted?
When all hear is
"why would we want to be responsible for possibly scratching that huge rim, if we did not sell you the tire? Go away."
quote from local *&(&(@$*^&( )^%@ tire shop that has big enough
tire mounting equipment.
my local dodge dealer can't even help me they dont have the right tire mount machine either
so what i am to do when i need tires?
roadtrip???
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Also try Sears Automotive, really.... Locally, they are the only ones in middle of no-where AR that mount my mail ordered Viper tires.
I would get on my yellow cell phone and call
but no one local will mount the tires they dont sell me....
bastages!!!
so if i got them how do i get them mounted?
When all hear is
"why would we want to be responsible for possibly scratching that huge rim, if we did not sell you the tire? Go away."
quote from local *&(&(@$*^&( )^%@ tire shop that has big enough
tire mounting equipment.
my local dodge dealer can't even help me they dont have the right tire mount machine either
so what i am to do when i need tires?
roadtrip???
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Also try Sears Automotive, really.... Locally, they are the only ones in middle of no-where AR that mount my mail ordered Viper tires.
Steve Miehe
Enthusiast
Got my two rear tires today. Look and smell great! They are cold from UPS hiding them behind my house yet still feel flexible. These are not old tires from first inspection. Will see if I can find a production date on them and report back to those that are interested.
NapaRT10
Enthusiast
Ordered mine from JonB @ partsrack. (Price put me over the top
on the decision to go to 18's for the ol' 94) Price was $4900
delivered. Oh yea, that price included a set of HRE 546's
I'm soooooooo happy
P.S. (Tires were $180 each for all 4)
on the decision to go to 18's for the ol' 94) Price was $4900
delivered. Oh yea, that price included a set of HRE 546's
I'm soooooooo happy
P.S. (Tires were $180 each for all 4)
RedEnuf93
Enthusiast
"From:Rowlett,Tx
Be carful guys some people have been getting 3 to 4 year old tires. Some with dry crack. Buyer beware of low prices
Tony Besh"
00 ACR Black & Silver
Hi Tony,
I will next weekend put the KVR rotors on and maybe even the shifter will show up before that! Enjoy the TX weather, we still have snow. If you do not believe, look at my avatar!
Lauri
Be carful guys some people have been getting 3 to 4 year old tires. Some with dry crack. Buyer beware of low prices
Tony Besh"
00 ACR Black & Silver
Hi Tony,
I will next weekend put the KVR rotors on and maybe even the shifter will show up before that! Enjoy the TX weather, we still have snow. If you do not believe, look at my avatar!
Lauri
BlackACR
Enthusiast
Fedex says Fri. All I can say is keep those hands warm. That shifter is great fun installing.
monnieh
Viper Owner
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jrkermode:
Viperrick,
(based on the production date molded into the tire<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
How do you find this production date!!! I've got some tires that I am worried about being old!
Viperrick,
(based on the production date molded into the tire<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
How do you find this production date!!! I've got some tires that I am worried about being old!
RedEnuf93
Enthusiast
Typically on the inner wall there is a oval spot with 4 numbers
(0300) First 2 number tell you the month of manufacture, last two year. In this case 0300 would be March 2000. My wifes Expedition had just tire recall, tires were a match with recall.
Result= new tires.
Lauri
(0300) First 2 number tell you the month of manufacture, last two year. In this case 0300 would be March 2000. My wifes Expedition had just tire recall, tires were a match with recall.
Result= new tires.
Lauri
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ntmatter:
As I recall, JonB at PartsRack had a similar price on 18" tires - check the Supplier Specials forum. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks Andy,,,,we indeed broke the "Tire Wars" story a couiple months ago, so this is old but relevant news!
PartsRack indeed has TireRack prices less a few $$, and we APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT! 1 more retail sale at TireRack means little to them, but I truly value your support, and you save a few $$.........and THANKS
No worries on age....these tires are 2000-2001 dates.
As I recall, JonB at PartsRack had a similar price on 18" tires - check the Supplier Specials forum. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks Andy,,,,we indeed broke the "Tire Wars" story a couiple months ago, so this is old but relevant news!
PartsRack indeed has TireRack prices less a few $$, and we APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT! 1 more retail sale at TireRack means little to them, but I truly value your support, and you save a few $$.........and THANKS
No worries on age....these tires are 2000-2001 dates.
RedEnuf93
Enthusiast
"Actually, the tire manufacture date has 4 digits, with the first 2 being the WEEK of manufacture, and the last 2 being the year.
Correct, I must have had one too many beers to mix weeks and months... Hah, Haa!!
Lauri
Correct, I must have had one too many beers to mix weeks and months... Hah, Haa!!
Lauri
ruckdr
Enthusiast
Actually, the tire manufacture date has 4 digits, with the first 2 being the WEEK of manufacture, and the last 2 being the year.
I have 1601 , and 1901 , as example: sixteenth and nineteenth weeks of 2001
Later,
I have 1601 , and 1901 , as example: sixteenth and nineteenth weeks of 2001
Later,
