HELP!! identify this internal engine part

[MoparBoyy]

changing the oil, stuck to the magnet on the drain plug was these parts, I can't for the life of me figure out what they are, they have a chrome finish each piece is about 10mm long and 2mm wide. they have a slight taper to them.

at first we thought it could be the parts of the valve springs, ripped the valve covers off and they dont match up with the type of metal/finish of the valve springs. i personally can't think of where these have come from.

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[TowDawg]

Not sure what the rod bearings were made of on the Gen II's. Dropping the pan isn't very tough, so it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to go ahead and drop it and see what else might be in there and possibly trying to see where those pieces came from.

 

[daytonprowler]

I'll forward this thread to Dick Winkles. He would be the guy that would know.

 

[MoparBoyy]

Its not a part of rod bearing. This piece is magnetic.

 

[ViperTony]

I'd drop the oil pan and remove the oil pan baffle. There may be more debris sitting on top of the baffle and in the pan. They look like spark plug tips, the metal part arcs over the insulator.

 

[MoparBoyy]

Spark plug tips can't make it to the oil pan without a giant hole in the piston... And car runs like a top

 

[speedracervr4]

Has your oil pan gasket ever been off? When I took mine off a couple pieces of the metal ring (bolt holes go through) was broken and had fallen into the pan. The picture above seems to be the same shape/size.

 

[IEATVETS]

Marilyn Manson's fingernails??!!

 

[DrumrBoy]

There are definitely several types of spark plugs that will physically fit the hole....some are longer than the right ones and, depending on your headwork, might contact the plugs......good news is the plugs usually lose (rather than something more expensive).... but ifthose are pieces of the plug anode (cathode?) fix it by using the correct plug for your set up ;-)

 

[DrumrBoy]

Sorry, you're right....no way for them to get to where you found em......

 

[v10viperbox]

Delete....

 

[C-Note]

This is perplexing.... I would not think that it is possible for those little parts to come from the bottom end, you would have to have a major problem which would be very obvious. We know if it was in the pan that it could not have come form the plugs, induction or exhaust. That leaves the valve train, timing assembly and oil pump. I guess you could lose small pieces of timing gears and not have an obvious engine problem. It may also be part of the bottom of a valve spring retainer.

Good luck, let us know what you find.

 

[Garron]

Almost looks like a chunk of spring

 

[tlcobra]

Looks like could be valve spring retainer. Hard to judge the size

 

[tlcobra]

Hey mopar i live by your bike friend. Smail.

 

[Garron]

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Oh I know, valve seal metal retainers

 

[AZTVR]

Oh I know, valve seal metal retainers

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[Garron]

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I live in Canada, $1250 is not even close to covering my taxes , why do you have to bring this up in April

 

[C-Note]

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Oh I know, valve seal metal retainers

Someone is lucky, that is a pretty easy fix. I wonder how in the world those broke off though????

 

[JAY]

What a great forum , that kind of advise would normally cost hundreds.....lol !

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Oh I know, valve seal metal retainers

 

[MoparBoyy]

Hey mopar i live by your bike friend. Smail.

nice! i used to live up there, moved to FL almost 2 years ago.

 

[MoparBoyy]

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Oh I know, valve seal metal retainers

pretty sure this is it.

pulled the oil pan off, nothing else in the pan. So i guess valve seals it is!

 

[EllowViper]

Too bad the OEM ones are not like the ones in the picture....I'd keep scratching my head unless your heads have been gone through once before and the comp cam seals installed. i know this has me stumped since I've torn into my engine top to bottom twice and I can't recall anything that resenbles these pieces...

 

[Garron]

Too bad the OEM ones are not like the ones in the picture....I'd keep scratching my head unless your heads have been gone through once before and the comp cam seals installed. i know this has me stumped since I've torn into my engine top to bottom twice and I can't recall anything that resenbles these pieces...

I am relatively sure Moparboyy is a Chrysler tech, so we will find out soon. I have seen these valve seals on vipers before, but I am not sure if there was head work done.

EllowViper what year is your viper?

 

[MoparBoyy]

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Too bad the OEM ones are not like the ones in the picture....I'd keep scratching my head unless your heads have been gone through once before and the comp cam seals installed. i know this has me stumped since I've torn into my engine top to bottom twice and I can't recall anything that resenbles these pieces...

who said the engine was stock?

and yep Garron is correct, a lowly tech i am.

 

[Garron]

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who said the engine was stock?

and yep Garron is correct, a lowly tech i am.

I am a Chrysler tech too

 

[EllowViper]

2001 GTS............

 

[Viper Parts of America]

Here is what the stock valve guides look like - intake on the left, exhaust on the right:

Same guides from 1992 through 2006 model year.