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Edward 96GTS

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Anybody know where I can get a portable navigation system for the Viper? Would like to be able to use it in another car also. Prefer something w/ approx 6" monitor. I assume it would plug into the cig outlet.
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I was also looking and found the following sites. I have a 2001 S500 which has a NAV system which I like.

The following may help:
http://etronics.resultspage.com/display.php?
p=UK&srid=S2&lbc=etronics&ts=dynamic&pw=gps&pu=2382&uid=1045118971&sort=ORDER&s_2=1&w=navigation&rk=1

http://www.thegpsstore.com/site/

Garmin StreetPilot Colormap GPS is on sale for $359.95

http://www.dealtime.com/xFN-GPS_devices/KW-Navigation_System/CR-1/Product.html

I like the Garmin StreetPilot III Deluxe Car Navigation System best for a small portable. The price varies so search as many sources as possible.

For a fixed system check the Pioneer NAV-SYS900DVD. Needs a display(DVD)

Hope this helps.
 
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Edward 96GTS

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Thanks for the leads Fred. The Magellan 750M seems to be getting good reviews. With the Garmin SP III Deluxe, do you have to reload it each time?
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Garmin has a new one coming out in a couple months that is a Palm unit and runs same maps as Street Pilot III. Also includes voice directions. Awesome. I haven't checked, but it should be on the Garmin website. (PS No you do not have to reload). I have the SP III but will be getting this puppy when it is available
 

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I use an alpine nav unit and have screens in all my vehicles and switch the unit to different vehicles when I need it. It is the best on the market that I have used. I type in the address I am going to and it leads me there. Warns me when to turn 1 1/2 miles be for the turn, gives an estimated time of arrival it is a amazing
 

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I use Destinator1 (http://www.destinator1.com) for my Viper. It works with your PocketPC (assuming you have one) and provides voice-guided door-to-door directions. It costs $329 and includes the software, North American maps (NavTech map data - considered the best and used by Hertz and many other car GPS systems), and a 12 channel GPS receiver.

I actually wrote a product review on it that is pretty detailed. Check it out here:
http://www.planetpdamag.com/content/062602tk.htm

The beauty of this setup is that it plugs into your cigarette lighter and charges both the GPS (mounted on dash) and the PocketPC at the same time and it's completely portable. I switch the unit from car to car all the time.

I would be wary of some of the Garmin products. They make good stuff, however, from what I understand on several of their products you have to pre-plan your route on your PC and then it will download the corresponding "map slices" to the Garmin device. This is due to a limited memory capacity on the Garmin products. I believe it has built-in city-to-city mapping via major highways, but if you want door-to-door directions, you need to perform "map slicing" on a PC and then download it. This is probably true of most GPS systems under $700.

That's why the really good GPS systems cost $1500 or more and require like 6 CD changer or a single DVD drive to store the map data.

Also, the lower-end Garmin products don't do turn-by-turn voice-guided navigation.

The Garmin GPS V is a decent product. It has city-to-city directions, and you can get door-to-directions by downloading one of 7 U.S. map zones (slices) from the CD they provide. So for example, the Northeast is a complete zone. It's a B&W screen though. So not exactly the coolest product for a Viper.

The Garmin Colormap StreetPilot GPS is the "color" model you see at the Sharper Image (and Brookstone I think). Since the screen is color and looks really cool, they push this product a lot.

But read the "fine print":

"The StreetPilot is designed primarily for the automobile and contains a world reference map showing Interstate, US and State highways, plus rivers and lakes in the US, Canada, and Mexico, with main arterial streets shown in metropolitan areas. Optional Datacards can be programmed for street level map detail and access to business listings and points of interest in your area."

The data cards essentially mean you need your PC to download door-to-door directions! This is bad. Who wants to remember to boot up their PC and pre-plan their trip?

That's why I like Destinator1, I never need to download specific maps to my GPS device. They compressed the detailed door-to-door maps so compactly, that I can load the Northeast and Western New York into about 64MB which I store on my PocketPC's CompactFlash card. They have a patent on the compression I believe. With my 512MB CF card, I actually loaded the entire U.S. map onto it. Oh yeah, it has Points of Interest too, such as Gas stations, Restaurants, etc. I really like the "find nearest" Gas station feature. Especially when driving in the boonies in the Viper. That fuel needle sure moves pretty quick! :laugh:

I also bought the "optional" Universal PDA Mount with Flexable Arm Bracket
which uses a suction cup to mount onto the winshield. I get lots of compliments and questions on my mounted PocketPC.

So for the cost of a PocketPC ($300-$500) + $329 for Destinator ($600-$800) you can have a small, portable, GPS system.

If anyone takes this advice and likes their GPS setup, just let me know. I'd be curious to see if you love it as much as I love my GPS. I use it all the time! Maybe i'll use my digital camera and post a picture of my setup here.
 

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viperct2001 -

Thanks for the detailed explanation!

I have halfway wanted a GPS system, but was hoping someone that already had one could give some pros and cons as you have done.

I would love to see some pics if you had the time!?!?

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I followed the link to the Destinator I and noticed that they are advertisign that the Destinator II has been released.

Is this the new improved version you made reference to in your write-up?

Many thanks again!
 

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well, here's my GPS setup. Note that this was taken in a poorly lit garage. With 24" of snow outside, (and still snowing!) I can't exactly move it outside for a daylight shot.

The pictures include a close-up of the iPaq with the Destinator1 software running as well as a far-shot so you get some idea of the dimensions. The ipaq is being held by a super-strong suction cup that attaches to your windshield and includes a flexible arm for moving the unit every-which-way.

On the left hand side you will see the GPS receiver along with a typical plastic suction cup. Normally it is pushed back towards the windshield, but I pulled it forward so you can see what it looks like (i.e. size-wise).

p.s. yes, I have the latest Destinator2 software. It has great new features, better maps, and has a 3D map feature which is pretty cool.

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>>Thank you much for the pictures and, once again, the write-up! Looks great!

No problem.

I LOVE the door-to-door voice-guided directions feature. Hypothetically speaking, you DO NOT want to be looking down at the GPS screen while doing 150mph to see if your exit is coming up. So if I have one recommendation, it's to get something with voice-guided directions. The new software even features the ability to say in this polite female voice "You are exceeding the posted speed limit." LOL!

It was off by default, and after turning it on for kicks, I turned it off after 30 minutes. After all, who wants to hear a polite woman saying I'm driving too fast every 5 seconds while driving the Viper! :)

Of course, I was intrigued enough to see if I could change the voice prompts. So I checked out the directory structure and realized they were simply WAV files. So I changed the speeding WAV file to "Ludicrous speed" from Space Balls.

Though that novelty wore off after awhile! LOL!
 

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I have and use a Street Pilot III colormap so I will give you a few pros/cons that I see with it. 1st: You do have to download detailed cities and door to door from your PC. You can purchase the entire US for $100 and they will send you a CD to install on your computer. From there you just connect the cable and download to the memory card. Garmin has various size cards, I purchased a 128 and was able to download all of Texas and Louisiana so that was quite a bit of data. The included 32card will download entire state of Indiana. All major highways, exits, state roads, rivers, etc. are preprogrammed onto the GPS before the card, the downloads will simply give you any street address you wish to find. The download process was a little confusing until I used it a few times, then it isn't too bad. You can program an entire trip with waypoints and stops and then download it into your GPS without using a card, it will then track your route the entire way. All in all, pretty happy with it, impressed me on several occasions. Prices vary, I had a friend pick me one up at cost so it wasn't too bad that way. It does have voice audible commands, announcing upcoming turns and exits, will find rest areas, motels, gas stations and even has phone numbers included with them. Hope this helps.

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Check out the new Garmen V. I just bought one on ebay for $350 (new) I use it in my rollback. It already comes loaded with USA maps and has more memory than the Street Pilot III. Not as expensive and the Streetpilot (you don't get the color display) but better nav. features and the maps are highly detailed. My only complaint is it is not backlit. I am using it in 2 weeks to get me from PA to Daytona beach (bike week)
 
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Edward 96GTS

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Is the technology for the portable nav systems still in its infancy? Should one wait another 6-12 months before spending $1500-2000 on the current top of the line models?
Thanks for all the GREAT info everyone.

Ed
 

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